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  • VEP Instrument Window Configuration Not Saving with DAW Project

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    Greetings,

    A little background — I'm using Vienna Ensemble Pro in a slightly unorthodox way along with Pro Tools in that I use one instance of VEP per instrument, and all instances are only saved inside the Pro Tools session (not the most DSP-efficient way I know but it has other advantages). I'm trying to set up a workflow that takes advantage of the awesome MIDI Activity Focus feature so that any instrument track I play or solo in Pro Tools will automatically show the instrument interface in VEP for easy editing. However, I'm having a problem where the instrument panel in VEP isn't remaining open when I save and reopen the Pro Tools session. When I open the instrument panel in all instances of VEP, close the Pro Tools session, and reopen it, the VEP screen only displays the blue tabs along the top. When I click on a tab or use MIDI Activity Focus to open a tab, I see the Channels section and the Mixer section, but no instrument. Pressing F4 to open the instrument doesn't work, but if I click on the instrument name in the Channels section the instrument opens and F4 will then close and reopen the instrument editor.

    To add to my confusion, when I close a Pro Tools session with only one instance of VEP and the instrument editor open, the instrument remains visible after reopening the session. The behavior I described above seems to only occur in sessions with multiple VEP instances. It strikes me as buggy, put perhaps I'm missing a preference or there is some kind of workaround? This workflow is so close to being supremely elegant but having to reopen my instrument editors every time I open a session is a bit of a buzzkill.

    My master is a Mac Mini i7 running Pro Tools 2020.5 and Catalina. My VEP machine is a self-built i9 PC on Windows 10 Pro 1909 and VEP 7.0.1056 64-bit. 

    Any advice would be much appreciated!

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  • Andreas8420A
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    Hello Ragnarock,

    Thank you for your detailed report. I can confirm very similar behaviour in Cubase and it would seem that the selection of a channel before saving the sequencer project does make a difference here. If I select a VST track in VE Pro first and then save the sequencer project, then everything works as intended.

    But if one were to select a bus (in my case the master bus) then we see exactly the behaviour you are describing. Can you confirm this for ProTools on your side?

    Kind regards - Andreas

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    Hi Andreas,

    Thanks for getting back to me. I ran some more tests. It doesn't make a difference if I select an instrument channel or a bus channel in VEP before closing the Pro Tools session, when I reopen the PT session none of my instrument editors remain open in VEP. I don't normally disconnect all instances and delete all instances before closing Pro Tools, but I tried doing that based on what I saw in your video and it didn't make a difference either way. When I reopen the session all I see are the blue tabs across the top of the VEP window that I screengrabbed in my prior post.

    I ran another test using Cubase and VEP together, both running on my PC, and I got the same behavior as you did. The instrument editors in VEP remain open if the instrument channel is selected before closing the Cubase session. 

    Let me know if I can provide you with any more information. It would be awesome to see this issue addressed in a future update.  Thanks again...