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  • VSL Logic/Pro Tools Question...

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    I've asked this question on the Northern Sounds forum but will ask here too...

    Does anyone know whether it is POSSIBLE to run LOGIC in the background while using Pro Tools in the foreground? That is, I would want to use LOGIC for JUST running VSL. I would sequence in PRO TOOLS, so LOGIC would just act as a sound module or interface to VSL. All material would be recorded in Pro Tools and sequenced in Pro Tools. I'm on a G5 dual 2 g.

    Is it even possible?

    Thanks
    Tom
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    Interesting idea, but I think it's insane ;D

    It may be possible but because Pro-tools is a real resource hog I wouldn't have thought that it would allow Logic access to the Core audio engine at the same time.

    Then again it might. I've used both programs extensively and I have never seen a way to link Logic and Pro-tools in that way. Logic can of course handle all the DAE and TDM stuff that the digidesign hardware can throw out, but that's somewhat different.

    Your only real hope of sequencing in pro-tools with VSL is to get a Pro-tools compatible cersion of Kontact or Halion, I think. [:D]
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    @hetoreyn said:

    Interesting idea, but I think it's insane ;D



    Your only real hope of sequencing in pro-tools with VSL is to get a Pro-tools compatible cersion of Kontact or Halion, I think. [:D]


    But VSL isn't made for Kontakt, right?

    It's very confusing. The way I understand it, Perf Tool and VSL will only work with EXS, so you have to use Logic....I really wish VSL was a standalone product like the QLSO thing, which I use fine with PT...

    Thanks
    Tom
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    VSL Team
    PaulP
    Hi,

    all of our Horizon Series products work with Kontakt and HALion, the First Edition and thje Pro Edition are available for GigaStudio and EXS only.

    Greetings,

    Paul
    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
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    In OS 9 you could open Logic with DTDM but not DAE, then open Pro Tools and stream Logic into its mixer via the DirectConnect plug-in. But now the plug-in isn't separate, so you can't do it that way.

    There are ways to cobble this kind of thing together using IAC, but I think what Paul says makes a lot more sense.
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    I also can't imagine why you'd want to sequence in Pro Tools if you have Logic, frankly.
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    Thanks.

    I don't have LOGIC, first off.

    I used to use it, and it was about as fun as someone giving you a Lockheed L1011 without a manual and saying "Happy flying!" I found it unintuitive and the audio sections of it were just not as clear cut, or as quick to use as PT. Not picking on Logic, though, I don't feel there is anything as simple and clear as PT. JMHO.

    I don't find the MIDI programming in the latest versions of PT to be limiting, unless you want to do things with MIDI that are just way out of the ordinary. I work very fast, seq a midi track, put an audio track in PT in record and go. Onto the next group of midi tracks, enable audio tracks , go. Boom. All day long, no bombs, no gotchas. I can quantize when needed, draw in tempo changes, etc....I really don't have any need for really esoteric midi features. If it's that bad or needs that much help I just play it again[;)]

    I would love to have VSL running on a Mac somewhere so I could take this dreadful PC and sell it. I have come to the conclusion that owning a PC means becoming extremely PC literate, knowing how to hunt down all sorts of driver problems, etc, and I don't have to time. The Mac just works all day long. So I am looking for solutions to become all Mac while still being able to use my Pro Edition of VSL and P Tool...

    So I could get another Mac, and have Logic run on this thing as a kind of virtual synth, like I am doing now with Giga on the PC?

    Thanks
    Tom
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    Dear Tom,

    I used to do what you're describing on the same computer -- that is I ran Logic in Core Audio and went out of a Metric Halo ULN 2 interface then routed via AES back into a ProTools 192 interface into ProTools. I then had Logic send midi timecode out my amt8 interface, had a cable in the back that went from 7 out to 7 in and had ProTools chase timecode.

    It worked fine for about a year. Then when I got VSL OPUS 1 I realized I could only run about 8 big instruments before it started stuttering. I since have switched to Logic using DAE and DTDM and now get a much higher track count (I don't know -- 25 to 30 instruments -- not as many as some but I have a G4 1.25 dual.)

    It would make sense to use my old system on two computers. To get all the files into ProTools for mixing you can now do something called Export Tracks as Audio Files, which is faster than bouncing one by one.

    JD