Thank you Paul,

So from what you are saying I can be assured that the Chopin Etude Opus 10 No 4 demo is not one that has had extra post rendering EQ work done. 

If this is what I can expect from using this particular preset (with slight tweaking) then I am certainly impressed!

Quick question re standard vs full.. do they both have the same amount of velocity layers? If so - how many?

Thank you again!

Hello, 

Yes, no additional EQ-ing / Mastering there. 

Standard / Full contain the same amount of velocity layers, the only difference is the additional microphones you get wth the Full Library. 

That's up to 70 velocity layers for each key for the D-274. 

Best,
Paul

@Paul said:

Hi Carlspost, 

All the piano demos were made with the factory presets, maybe  slightly tweaked by our composers. 

In the case of the Chopin Etude Op 10 no 4: I checked, and it was the Concert Room-Mix preset that comes with the Standard Library. 

Best,
Paul

Hi Paul,

OK..Here is the situation. I have just bought  and downloaded the Steinway D-274  (standard) . From your reply to my previous question I am lead to believe that  the Demo of  the Chopin Etude Op 10 no 4: by Guy Bacos was produced using a default setting of the Steinway D-274 . (Concert - Room Mix) . However, After loading a midi file (same etude) I am only able to achieve a very different result. I realise that there are velocity curves to consider etc but I dont believe that this  would result in such a different outcome.  I have based my purchase on the fact that the demo was indicative of the "out of the box" capability of  the software.- As I indicated in my previous communication , I have been let down too many times by virtual pianos that promise one thing but deliver another. Please listen to the following  uploaded clip of what I mean - and I would appreciate your reply outlining how I would achieve the same (or remotely similiar result) using the same default settings as per the Guy Bacus example on your website. Here is the link  https://youtu.be/c_MiC_i1SWk   My version  starts at 17 seconds, Thank you. 

Hi Paul, Thank you for your quick reply.

Did you listen to the link I attached?

I have triple checked that my settings and they are precisely the same as those you have supplied. However, the question still remains – Why does the result differ so drastically??

To be honest I don’t have the patience to go through the process of buying yet another software ( and awaiting shipment of the eLicenser etc etc) just to find that I have once again I have bought another virtual piano that has been misrepresented on the retailers website.

I am happy to send you my midi file for you (or Guy Bacos) to produce a result that is at least similar to that featured on the VSL website.

Please let me know if there is something that I may have missed… However like I said my setting’s are in line with those you have provided.

Regards,

Carl

Just a thought (I understand your feelings about this). Could it be, that the overal attack of Guy is softer, or the keyboard of Guy is responding softer on a attack. You could try to diminish the midi sensitivity. Good luck!

Hi Carlspost,

I opened the Chopin op 10 no 4 Étude file, I'm affraid I don't understand, I played it from my sequencer and it's the same as the mp3 on the website. Am I missing something? The only thing I did was increased the volume. 

Guy

I just saw the video you sent,  that is stange, let me see what could be the issue.

I may see what's going on. What I'm hearing is the Concert-Room-Mix preset, however, in my version, the sound is drier and cleaner, which is what you like. I have a feeling that something in the midi file transfer didn't transfer correctly. Click on Concert-Room-Mix preset and manually lower the Room-Mix fader to -7.2. 

Thank you, Guy for your input.

I really appreciate your response and am very happy to report that your suggestion of that minor adjustment has really transformed the sound to a very comparable result.

I am relieved that I the D-274 is a piano that lives up to its name. Like I said earlier, I have been mislead in the past by other software that really does not produce the promised result. 

However, I am extremely impressed by the D-274 and am more and more surprised by its ability to produce a realistic sound. It really leaves everything else behind!

Much appreciated.

C

Welcome, glad that solved it. So many possibilities just by tweaking the mixer faders, worth playing around with them.

Hello everybody,

May anyone tell me if the sympathetic resonance feature of the Synchron Steinway works properly, please? Unfortunately it is not possible to listen to that via the pubblished demos and I would like to know that before purchasing.

Thanks 

Matteo

Hi Matteo,

The silent key function is currently not implemented. You can find out your self: try to press a key on your keyboard without triggering a sound in any of the VSL piano's. Paul wrote that it is on VSL's to do list. Nine months ago he answered me the same, adding that the issue had a low priority because only 5 people had asked about it. Now there are 7 people asking. I doubt that this is an interesting number for VSL. All we can hope for is that more customers ask for the silent key function.

Al the best Roeland

I'm surprised how little I miss the resonance.  It wasn't long ago everyone was wondering why virtual pianos felt nothing like pianos, and sympathetic resonance became a high-demand feature.

Yet here we are in 2020 with the best instruments not even bothering to use it.

Of course it'll be very welcome if it does reach VSL's standards and show up one day.

Hi buz,

I'm not sure if I got you right, but in case you miss the sympathetic resonance feature, please check the top-right corner where you can enable it :)

Best, Ben

Hi Ben, I have purchased the Steinway and tested it. Unfortunately the feature called "Sympathetic resonance"  does not work as sympathetic resonace would and destroys the sound naturalness. Therefore I believe it is not usable. 

Matteo

Hi all.

I think the demo section should allow us to dawnload midi files and presets.

To give an example : I tried during hours to reproduce the wonderful Nicholas Decrescent “Giving Thanks” preset, and I’m still not satisfied.

Regards

Gabriel

@Gabriel Plalame said:

Hi all.

I think the demo section should allow us to dawnload midi files and presets.

To give an example : I tried during hours to reproduce the wonderful Nicholas Decrescent “Giving Thanks” preset, and I’m still not satisfied.

 

Regards

Gabriel

Actually, it does give you the preset. They can be located once you click the "i" icon: "Preset: Intimate, Surround to Stereo (Full Library)." The sound produced by the song "Giving Thanks" is literally the SOLE reason why I purchased the library. Albeit, it would be very nice if they also gave the midi files to verify/compare.

+1 For PROPER sympathetic resonance and working silent key. The $129 "Scoring Piano" by Fluffy Audio has this (And several other significantly cheaper options such as Garritan's CFX) yet VSL doesn't? If I were in charge at VSL I would definitely hold a higher standard than this, and a higher standard than "well only 5 people are asking for it."