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  • Starting an instance without the Automation window open

    How can I have my new instances start without the Automation window open by default? This doesn't seem quite right in terms of interface design, to have this busy sidebar open by default.


  • That doesn't happen here, it can't be its default behavior, a new instance never has the Automation Map showing.
    I would clear preferences, that's unusual. Or if it's an old version update.

     

    EDIT: I'm talking about VEP 7, albeit 6 didn't exhibit that either.


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    @derekderek said:

    How can I have my new instances start without the Automation window open by default? This doesn't seem quite right in terms of interface design, to have this busy sidebar open by default.

    I agree, this happens for me too and I wish the default behavior is to not show it.  


  • Is there anyone official from VSL who can confirm if this is expected behavior for v7? It started specifically with v7 for me, and no updates have changed it.


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    Hi, 

    Very official: This is expected behaviour of VE Pro 7, we wanted to point out the new possibilities, which we believe are quite great. 

    So far, everybody seemed to like it ๐Ÿ˜Š

    Best,
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @civilization 3 said:

    That doesn't happen here, it can't be its default behavior, a new instance never has the Automation Map showing.
    I would clear preferences, that's unusual. Or if it's an old version update.

     

    EDIT: I'm talking about VEP 7, albeit 6 didn't exhibit that either.

    It doesn't open by default for me, either.  Interesting...


  • I absolutely DO NOT like it as default behavior, so not "everyone" likes it.  Please provide an option to not do that.


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    Hi Dewdman42, 

    I understand that you do not like it. Of course we will drop everything and think about a specific solution. Better? ๐Ÿ˜Š

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • At least please add to the โ€œwish listโ€.

  • Yeah, I get that it's nice to point out the feature but it adds clutter to the interface, which, as I see it goes a little bit astray from good design/usability. For me personally, it's a bit of a fly buzzing in the face to have to close every one so I can see my kontakt instances. I think having the option is the way to go but I guess I can change my default template for new instances?

  • Does saving it without it showing wind up showing it anyway, upon launch?

    Hard to imagine that being a desired default. It didn't do that for me even the first time. I don't know if it inherits preferences from VE Pro 6. I would try trashing preferences if this happens on a saved instance with it not showing. Sometimes I save the server project with nothing, sometimes all instances have it showing, it always opens like I had it at save.


  • I actually don't know how to trash the preferences (it's on my windows vepro host), and I also don't know how to save a default file, other than as a Cubase track preset.


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    @Dewdman42 said:

    I absolutely DO NOT like it as default behavior, so not "everyone" likes it.  Please provide an option to not do that.

    Me too. I do not like this behaviour. If you want to draw my attention to cool things I might want to use, put it in the manual.


  • I have to say, , I don't care for it opening by default either. It's just a small annoyance for me,  but an  annoyance just the same.


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    @derekderek said:

    I actually don't know how to trash the preferences (it's on my windows vepro host), and I also don't know how to save a default file, other than as a Cubase track preset.


    I meant saving the instance. VEP menu = Instance; Save Project As. You could save whatever as a default. I don't remember where preferences are in Windows, it would be probl'y be a user directory rather than the system's 'Library' or whatever it's called.

    I wonder if the difference is I use an automation map for every instance, and I am picky about sizing and keeping it as much out of the way as I can, and people that don't haven't established a preference for VEP to take notice of.

    For a new instance, opening an automation map takes up all the space VEP does and I have to undock and size it. This was never the case before 7.


  • Hi, 

    Here's a quick workaround (sorry for the delay): 

    1. Open VE PRO Standalone

    2. Hide automation window

    3. Close standalone

    Now VE PRO Server instances will also not show the automation window. 

    Best,
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • Thank you!  Works like a charm.  


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    Hi, 

    New feature in VE Pro 7.0.877, I think you will like it ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • yes we like it!!  thank you.


  • Hi Paul,

    I did as said, opened standalone (latest version), closed Automation window, saved project and, when reopening it I  had automation window back. All on Mac OS Big Sur.

    What wrong did I do?

    Witold