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    @Paul said:

    Hi, The Bonus Taiko is an enthusiastic gesture to thank ourearly adopters for their trust, and also to welcome everbody who is just getting to know our products with VE Pro 7. There's so much to discover with our Synchron Series products, and Epic Orchestra 2.0 is the perfect tool to dive in and check out the possibilities. Who knows, maybe there will be more free add-ons? Best,Paul
    I like free addons... I don't. I will never use them. I only want VEpro 7 and nothing more. I have everything else I need. But this upgrade, will be very expensive. So have to wait and see what's in this upgrade, to see if it's worth it I like free add-ons IF they bring something great to the table that I don't have otherwise. Taikos I got covered big time through East West Stormdrum 2. Give me a functional VEPro7 upgrade that makes financial sense - you know like grandfathering in those of us who have a 3 license VEPro 6 to a 3 license VEPro 7 without added expense.
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    Imagine a world where VEP7 is much better than you expected & really helps you do what you love to do.
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    I've been using VEP5 since I can remember, I think when it was first released I purchased it. I did not buy VEP6 because I read on here there was a lot of issues with it but that was when it was first released.

    This is also my first ever post on here because I never ever had a single issue with VEP5 Pro whatsoever and I can close my eyes and tell you everything about VEP5 as I use it all the time. All I can say VEP5 Pro is one heck of an application and I just hope and pray VEP7 Pro is even better since I just purchased it.

    Hopefully they will have a release date soon? Soon is a chinese word and it could mean tomorrow or a year from now....LOL
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    @concan said:

    Hi Paul,
    my current Vienna Ensemble Pro 6 license contains 3 single licenses. Do they stay with an upgrade to VEP 7 or do I have to buy 2 single licenses?

    Best Rainer

    I also would like an answer to this question. I did notice I only recieved 1 VEP7 license after upgrading but I already have 3 VEP5 licenses so shouldn't we also receive the same amount of licenses with the upgrade?

    I'm not complaining $45 is not a huge problem for me but for others it could.
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    Am I right in assuming that the €45 for the additional liceneces is the normal price and is not on offer, so no need to pre-order to get that price ?
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    @concan said:

    Hi Paul,
    my current Vienna Ensemble Pro 6 license contains 3 single licenses. Do they stay with an upgrade to VEP 7 or do I have to buy 2 single licenses?

    Best Rainer

    I also would like an answer to this question. I did notice I only recieved 1 VEP7 license after upgrading but I already have 3 VEP5 licenses so shouldn't we also receive the same amount of licenses with the upgrade?

    I'm not complaining $45 is not a huge problem for me but for others it could.

    In a fair world those of us who have 3 licenses in VEPro 6 would get the same amount of licenses in the VEPro 7 upgrade. But it's not a fair world unfortunately. Vienna made a business decision that's making a lot of people angry. Also unfortunately this is the only product of it's type out there so it's the old supply & demand rule: we have the supply and can demand whatever the heck we want.

    To clarify something: posters here are stating costs but with the wrong descriptor for a particular cost. That 45 figure is in euros; the American dollar amount is $51.12 at current exchange rates acording to Vienna. Yes it looks like there is no intro price break on the extra licenses (phooey). However the upgrade price if you already have VEPro 6 is $85.21 US and 75 euros (I mistakenly typed 145 euros).
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    No, it's $85.21 US and 90 euros to give you 3 licenses.

    Dorico, Notion, Sibelius, StudioOne, Cubase, Staffpad VE Pro, Synchon, VI, Kontakt Win11 x64, 64GB RAM, Focusrite Scarlett 18i20, August Forster 190
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    Hi,

    The introductory price will be available until the software is released, and we will announce all changes in pricing agead of time.

    45 EUR for an additional upgrade license is the introductory price, like it says on the VE PRO 7 product page:

    Upgrade Offer
    The upgrade price to Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 is currently €75 (reg. €95) for the first license, and it includes Epic Orchestra 2.0, free of charge. Additional Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 upgrade licenses are offered at €45 (reg. €65) each. When you're logged in, the reduced price is automatically shown as “Your Price” if you’ve already registered Vienna Ensemble Pro 4, 5 or 6.

    Full Purchase
    If you’re new to Vienna Ensemble Pro, now is a great time to jump aboard! The introductory price of Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 including Epic Orchestra 2.0 is €145 (reg. €195). To run Vienna Ensemble Pro on more computers, additional licenses are available at €65 (reg. €95) each. You may download and install Vienna Ensemble Pro 6 from MyVSL anytime.

    Best,
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Paul said:

    Hi, 

    The introductory price will be available until the software is released, and we will announce all changes in pricing agead of time. 

    45 EUR for an additional upgrade license is the introductory price, like it says on the VE PRO 7 product page: 

    Upgrade Offer
    The upgrade price to Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 is currently €75 (reg. €95) for the first license, and it includes Epic Orchestra 2.0, free of charge. Additional Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 upgrade licenses are offered at €45 (reg. €65) each. When you're logged in, the reduced price is automatically shown as “Your Price” if you’ve already registered Vienna Ensemble Pro 4, 5 or 6.

    Full Purchase
    If you’re new to Vienna Ensemble Pro, now is a great time to jump aboard! The introductory price of Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 including Epic Orchestra 2.0 is €145 (reg. €195). To run Vienna Ensemble Pro on more computers, additional licenses are available at €65 (reg. €95) each. You may download and install Vienna Ensemble Pro 6 from MyVSL anytime.

    Best,
    Paul

     

    I don´t understand, the 45Eur UPGRADE per license is the PREORDER price?

    Or the 45Eur offer has no time limit for users upgrading?

    Paul, I think the company is not adressing a lot of the issues raised by lots of customers, the three licences cutting is a though pill to swallow. Again, VEP is a excellent piece of software which shouldn´t need for an epic orchestra bundle offer for people upgrading, a lot of us don´t need those samples, we just want our three licenses.

    And now, if I am reading correctly, if we don´t upgrade before the preorder ends the price to match VEP6 configuration would be: 95+65+65=225Eur????

     

    EDIT: I´ve checked and I bought VEP6 for U$244, is VSL seriously willing to ask more for the upgrade than the original purchase? nice way to treat your customers.
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    The only feature that will be worth of upgrading is audio over lan capability. If VE can handle transfer of virtual instrument audio, it can handle direct soundcard inputs too.

    If you implement this, Audiante Dante will see bankrupcy and whole Synchron Stage can switch to your technology...
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    @Paul said:

    Hi, 

    The introductory price will be available until the software is released, and we will announce all changes in pricing agead of time. 

    45 EUR for an additional upgrade license is the introductory price, like it says on the VE PRO 7 product page: 

    Upgrade Offer
    The upgrade price to Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 is currently €75 (reg. €95) for the first license, and it includes Epic Orchestra 2.0, free of charge. Additional Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 upgrade licenses are offered at €45 (reg. €65) each. When you're logged in, the reduced price is automatically shown as “Your Price” if you’ve already registered Vienna Ensemble Pro 4, 5 or 6.

    Full Purchase
    If you’re new to Vienna Ensemble Pro, now is a great time to jump aboard! The introductory price of Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 including Epic Orchestra 2.0 is €145 (reg. €195). To run Vienna Ensemble Pro on more computers, additional licenses are available at €65 (reg. €95) each. You may download and install Vienna Ensemble Pro 6 from MyVSL anytime.

    Best,
    Paul

    But if you look at the left side of the page in the boxes that are just to the left of the 'Details: Epic Orchestra 2.0' paragraphs in the 'additional license' line it only shows one price of 45 euros with nothing that says it's an upgrade or regular full price. Conflicting info.
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    @icecubeman said:

    The only feature that will be worth of upgrading is audio over lan capability. If VE can handle transfer of virtual instrument audio, it can handle direct soundcard inputs too.

    If you implement this, Audiante Dante will see bankrupcy and whole Synchron Stage can switch to your technology...

    VEPro already can handle transfer of vi audio over ethernet which is a completely different animal than soundcard audio. Just because it can handle one doesn't mean it can handle the other.
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    @icecubeman said:

    The only feature that will be worth of upgrading is audio over lan capability.

    Well, VST3-Support would be nice. That would enable me to install many of my plugins VST3 only. 
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    @Paul said:

    Hi, 

    The introductory price will be available until the software is released, and we will announce all changes in pricing agead of time. 

    45 EUR for an additional upgrade license is the introductory price, like it says on the VE PRO 7 product page: 

    Upgrade Offer
    The upgrade price to Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 is currently €75 (reg. €95) for the first license, and it includes Epic Orchestra 2.0, free of charge. Additional Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 upgrade licenses are offered at €45 (reg. €65) each. When you're logged in, the reduced price is automatically shown as “Your Price” if you’ve already registered Vienna Ensemble Pro 4, 5 or 6.

    Full Purchase
    If you’re new to Vienna Ensemble Pro, now is a great time to jump aboard! The introductory price of Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 including Epic Orchestra 2.0 is €145 (reg. €195). To run Vienna Ensemble Pro on more computers, additional licenses are available at €65 (reg. €95) each. You may download and install Vienna Ensemble Pro 6 from MyVSL anytime.

    Best,
    Paul

    But if you look at the left side of the page in the boxes that are just to the left of the 'Details: Epic Orchestra 2.0' paragraphs in the 'additional license' line it only shows one price of 45 euros with nothing that says it's an upgrade or regular full price. Conflicting info.

     

    IF YOU OWN VEP5 and/or 6 that price on the left is for upgrade!!!! I'm sure those of use who owns VEP5 or 6 gets a discount on each license compared to those who do not own neither...Read it again:

    VEP by itself costs around $85 approx. The License is $51 approx. This is IF YOU ALREADY OWN VEP5 or 6. The INTRODUCTORY LICENSE price is $164, basically if you do not own it. So each license is going to cost EVERYBODY $51 approx USD because as of right now they are only giving us who upgrade 1 LICENSE which came with the upgrade and we only paid $85. Understand? $85 is not bad with Orchestra 2, but more patches would have been better LOL....
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    It goes like this:

    If you do not yet own VEP, then the price is 145 Euro's for a single license (normally 195 Euros retail).  

    If you own VEP5/6, then the price for upgrading the first one of your existing three licenses is 75 Euros (95 euros retail)  and all the remaining licenses are 45 euro's each (65 Euros retail).

    the cost to upgrade my VEP6 licenses, which I just purchased, almost exactly one year ago today for USD$235; is actually higher then what I paid to buy them 1 year ago.  

    Sorry VSL, but there is no way I will upgrade at this price point.  Even if it has a few nice new features...you just doubled cost of this software for me and I can't justify it.  

    If it turns out that VEP7 is so incredibly better then VEP6 that its completely worth paying for it all over again..maybe I'll reconsider, but I find that highly unlikely.  Doens't matter how many freebie sample libraries you try to toss in.  I find this utterly ridiculous, I will make do with VEP6 for as long as I can.  Maybe VEP8 or VEP9 will get my attention, never know.
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    For users who have three or more servers and actually use three or more licenses, I completely understand the objection to the upgrade pricing structure. But how many users have three licenses only because that was the only way the could buy them, and actually need one or two for one or two servers. I don't think folks in the second category should complain as loudly as folks in the first category.

    I have no idea how many existing users are in each category.
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    The ONLY reason I bought VEP to begin with was in order to run it both together on my DAW machine as well as potentially one more server.  But part of the value to me was that for approximately $250 I knew I could network in my extra laptop in a pinch or whatever...That is part of the value it was sold to me as.  VSL is putting us in a situation now where we have to now choose between downgrading our capability or paying unreasonable amount to continue with the capability we thought we were buying not that long ago.
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    1) Yes, sometimes prices increases, as also the value of a dollar or euros does. 2) Do you usually get customized products when you buy something? Do you criticize Apple because you can’t choose to not have the stupid apps like iMovie and thus pay less for your Mac? Does it help telling Apple you don’t need it? Or do you get your DAWs cheaper by saying no thanks to the sounds it comes with? I’d try to treat Paul et al with a little bit more respect.
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    @Paul said:

    Hi, 

    The introductory price will be available until the software is released, and we will announce all changes in pricing agead of time. 

    45 EUR for an additional upgrade license is the introductory price, like it says on the VE PRO 7 product page: 

    Upgrade Offer
    The upgrade price to Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 is currently €75 (reg. €95) for the first license, and it includes Epic Orchestra 2.0, free of charge. Additional Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 upgrade licenses are offered at €45 (reg. €65) each. When you're logged in, the reduced price is automatically shown as “Your Price” if you’ve already registered Vienna Ensemble Pro 4, 5 or 6.

    Full Purchase
    If you’re new to Vienna Ensemble Pro, now is a great time to jump aboard! The introductory price of Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 including Epic Orchestra 2.0 is €145 (reg. €195). To run Vienna Ensemble Pro on more computers, additional licenses are available at €65 (reg. €95) each. You may download and install Vienna Ensemble Pro 6 from MyVSL anytime.

    Best,
    Paul

    But if you look at the left side of the page in the boxes that are just to the left of the 'Details: Epic Orchestra 2.0' paragraphs in the 'additional license' line it only shows one price of 45 euros with nothing that says it's an upgrade or regular full price. Conflicting info.

     

    IF YOU OWN VEP5 and/or 6 that price on the left is for upgrade!!!! I'm sure those of use who owns VEP5 or 6 gets a discount on each license compared to those who do not own neither...Read it again:

    VEP by itself costs around $85 approx. The License is $51 approx. This is IF YOU ALREADY OWN VEP5 or 6. The INTRODUCTORY LICENSE price is $164, basically if you do not own it. So each license is going to cost EVERYBODY $51 approx USD because as of right now they are only giving us who upgrade 1 LICENSE which came with the upgrade and we only paid $85. Understand? $85 is not bad with Orchestra 2, but more patches would have been better LOL....

    There is no discount on an extra license if you already own a previous version of VEPro. The extra license cost is the same for everyone. And those prices on the left side are for both new and upgrades - you have to be logged in to see your price if you already wn VEPro.
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    @McArnes said:

    I’d try to treat Paul et al with a little bit more respect.

    I have said nothing disrespectful towards anyone here, including Paul.

    But doubling the price of my product in a year is not acceptable and I shall definitely voice it.  If VSL wants my business on VEP, they have to be more reasonable about it.  End of story.