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  • Cubase and Vienna Ensemble - not ensemble pro

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    I'm currently using Vienna Ensemble 6 (not pro!) on a single PC. I'm also only using Special Edition for now. Poor me etc...

    I have previously used individual instances of Vienna Instruments on a 'per track basis'. So I'd have a clarinet on a track in Cubase. It gets pretty CPU intensive hosting all those instances if you're using many tracks, and I'm exploring VE - I've used it in Sibelius for many years, so I understand some of the fundmentals.

    However, one of the advantages of my 'per track' approach is that, when I clicked on the 'edit instrument' button in Cubase, so I could see what what was playing, and which controllers I was manipulating etc etc, Cubase opened the Vienna instruments panel. One click - easy. Now, when I click the 'edit instrument' button on the midi track I've assigned to 'Instrument 1' in Cubase it opens up the server window (I don't know what it's called properly, sorry but I've attached a photo).

    Is there any way I can regain my preferred behaviour while still using VE? Having to click the VE window and mouse to get the track I need is going to get old, really quickly.

    Many thanks, and sorry this is a basic question.

    Mike

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  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP
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    Hi Mike, 

    I'm afraid such an option is only available with VE PRO. 
    Give it a try with a free demo license, I have just sent you one 😊

    Also, check out the feature "MIDI ACTIVITY FOCUS" in VE PRO, it "listens" to which channel you are sending MIDI on (if only on that channel). 

    Best, 
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
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    Bless you Paul, thanks.

    I need to go pro, I know that  - I'll check out the demo. Slave PCs aren't too far over the horizon (I hope) so I need to figure this out anyway.

    All best

    Mike
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    I'm sorry - I can't figure this out, and the manual isn't much help.

    I've set up a VE pro server on my DAW, and communication between cubase and the VE server is fine.

    I've created several MIDI tracks in cubase to control each instrument. Each MIDI track is communicating fine with the VE server.

    I've selected 'auto raise instance' but when I selected 'edit vst instrument' from my midi tracks, nothing happens.

    Have I done something wrong?

    I'd really appreciate some help - I've been trying to figure this out for hours now, and am getting a little frustrated.

    Thanks

    Mike 

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    And my favourite reverb (IRCAM Flux Verb) isn't showing up in VEPro 6???!!!

    Seriously, if someone could help me out I'd be really grateful. I'm ready to junk VE pro completely - it's been nothing but hassle this afternoon, and I really can't see any advantage to using it right now. 

    Does anyone have any experience of using the Flux Verb with VEPro6? Any idea why it's not being scanned? I've checked the directory - I'm running 64 bit, and the directory is right (it's found everything else, after all).

    I'd be really grateful for input - I'm at the 'throw my machine out of the window' stage at the moment.

    Thanks

    Mike
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    OK, I'm giving up for the night, but the manual is shockingly bad. I'm really sorry to have to say so - I generally don't like being critical on forums etc.

    For example, I want to insert a reverb as a send FX in VE pro (ignore the fact that VE pro won't find my preferred reverb for now, I can deal with that another time and have a few to choose from).

    Can someone tell me, in plain English, how a reverb as a send FX in VE pro should be set up? 

    At the moment, I've created a bus, with one of my reverbs on as an insert effect, and am sending to it, and routing everything via the master bus/outputs 1&2. If that is the correct procedure, then it was no thanks to the manual.
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    Hi MikeC,

    What you need, probably, is to add the fx folder  to VE Pro Preferences / Plugins / Vst settings ( usually, you will find the plugins in Program Files/ Common files / Steinberg/ VST2). Unless, you decided to give another location for your Ircam reverb !

     

    Hope it helps !
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    Thanks! I'll try that today - much appreciated.

    The Verb 3 is an amazing reverb, but the folks over at FLUX aren't always the best at implementation/responding to customers/much else. I put up with it because the FLUX stuff sounds amazing. However, the quality of my Fabfilter reverb (I tried it just to try to get the VE pro set up properly), which I generally don't use on orchestral stuff has surprised me.

    Cheers

    Mike
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    Update: This didn't work. 

    Just for clarity, VE pro sees all my other VST plugins without issue. My VST directory is being scanned successfully, and I've done a 're-scan all' and a several restarts (turn it off and back on again). 

    But all the Flux plugins (SPAT, Verb etc etc) are not being scanned. 

    Any ideas? I'll can change over my routing in VEpro, activating the many audio outputs in Cubase, but I really liked the idea of working within the VEpro instance - it makes the routing in Cubase less cumbersome.

    Thanks

    Mike
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    Hi MikeC, 

    I will take a look next week. 

    If you get in touch with Flux, we're happy to provide them with a VE PRO license to check/improve this on their side!

    Best, 
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
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    Thanks Paul,

    It'll no doubt be a problem on the Flux side (everything else is working after all), but their customer care leaves a lot to be desired I'm afraid. 

    I'll email them today. That's very generous of you - appreciate it.

    Mike
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    https://forum.vsl.co.at/topic/43471/Flux IRCAM Plugins Unavailable To VEPro Win10/260585
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    Hi MikeC, 

    I swear I didn't remember this one. 

    Thanks for sharing!

    Best, 
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
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    I'm not surprised! You guys must deal with 150,00 different issues every day.

    Just thought it helpful to leave a proverbial breadcrumb trail for those that may come later ;-)

    Cheers

    Mike