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  • HI Paul,

     

    Oh okay, I see. How does the SE full bundle compare sound-wise to the Smart Orchestra?

    Thanks for the quick reply!


  • Im a bit confused on the pricing... I own the license for the Special Edition core 1-4, is the price staying at 95 Euros or will it increase after the introuductory offer?

    I am VERY interested in this from the perspective of the FX and pads. Alot of stuff Im working on lately is more ethereal stuff, and its great now that I can use the library I have chosen to invest in to finally be able to do that. Would love to see the pads and fx expanded even more :)

    I get alot of people that ask me, "Why Vienna?" My answer is always simple. Its the software. Let's be real. Most soundfonts today only offer a subtle difference in sound between the different libraries. To my ears, Spitfire, 8dio, Cinesamples, EastWest, they are all very similar. Vienna has a more dry sound, more unique and flexible in that regard, but that comes at a cost of more processing required to get that sound you want, and it is totally possible to get Vienna to sound similar to these other libraries with some tweaking. However, the thing that cant be beat is the software. The Play software from EastWest stinks. Kontakt is even worse. Both get in the way of my creativity. Heck, I still cant figure out how to get articulation changes to work correctly in Play from EastWest and I have been a subscriber to EastWest forever. Vienna Instruments, its so simple. load the instrument, create a matrix, drop the articulations in, Im writing music for that instruments in a minute after loading the sound. I only wish you guys would consider doing a DAW. Ill bet you could simplify the entire chain, while still providing the features necessary to write good music.

    Synchron looks to be a simplified version of VI, which in itself, isnt necessarily a bad thing. I think the only major thing Id miss is the humanize function that VI offers. This subtle effect really brings a human touch to compositions. I really want to play with it, but being that my car was totalled, and, I have a final school payment coming up in the next week (Im a student), money is a bit tight at the moment... Hence why Im worried about whether the Special Edition pricing is going to change...


  • Hi!

    @Nik: Check out the demos, it should be pretty clear. But the main advantage is the playability!

    @littleweirdo: The price for Smart Orchestra will be increased after the introductory offer. And we're of course working on more FX. 

    Thanks for the praise of our softwatre, I'll share that with the team as well!

    Synchron Player simply opens new possibilities for different kinds of products, and we are only at version 1.1 right now... 

    Also: Be careful on the roads!!

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • « And we're of course working on more FX. »

    I an not sure more FX are useful (exception is transcient shaper for percussion).

    When I play sound from the FX presets, they quickly become boring. The sound is static, nothing happend.

     

    What is missing is modulation.

    Have a look at the way to modulate the sound with :

    • Izotope Iris 2
    • Heavyocity Gravity Pack

     

    There are few effects available, but many ways to modulate the sound.

    Iris 2 contains the classic Enveloppe and LFO and Gravity contains some motions sequencers.

    The result is incredible and it's easy to create animated sound design.

     

    Stop working on more FX and add modulation to the FX.


  • Hi Olivin, 

    That's an INCREDIBLE idea, we would have never thought of that!

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • What's the mixer / output sections setup on this?

    thanks


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    Hi Carl,

    Check out the videos, please.

    All sections (Strings, Woodwdinds, Brass, Percussion) are controllable on separate volume faders, and additionally you get the solo legato instruments on separate faders.

    Best,
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • No online manual pdf?

    I watched but only heard mention of an internal mixer, balancing, not how separate outputs are available for user routing. Also no mention of how it operates inside of VEPro, MIR or with existing VSL libraries.


  • Hi Carl, 

    I can send you the Synchron Player pdf, please send a quick mail to support@vsl.co.at.

    In short words: Flexible routing, also with VE PRO. 

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Paul said:

    Hi Carl, 

    I can send you the Synchron Player pdf, please send a quick mail to support@vsl.co.at.

    In short words: Flexible routing, also with VE PRO. 

    Best, 
    Paul

    Thanks Paul,

    just purchased so I should have it shortly!


  • So I tested the lib for some hours and I absolutely like it!

    Great playability out of the box, easy to use and easy to learn, but still offering an enormous flexibility (for these amount of articulations).

    Great Work VSL!

    P.S.: This is how I wished Synchron strings could be (advertised with Beauty of Simplicity and slogans like this).


  • Paul,

    This is a tremendous innovation to small users like me. Wonderful introduction to the vast opportunuties to VSL. If you wish, can you substitute any other VSL instrument into VSO. eg the Appassionata strings into the strings etc etc across the board?

    Yours,

    Patrick


  • .....and following on from this, can you use MIR to change the instruments around the stage? Actually, can you place the instruments around the stage in the first place? And use Vienna Suite as well? I'm getting carried away but you can get my drift. This is a wonderful introduction to VSL. I'm sold. I am not a professional composer. I'm too old.

    Patrick


  • You guys might want to consider updating your Synchron player description page, and perhaps, even link to the products it works with...

    https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Software/Synchron_Player


  • Please find attached a list of company that are NKS ready

    I hope that VSL is going to be there soon so we can control VSO directly from the keyboard and we have the articulation displayed on the keyboard

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    MacBook Pro M3 MAX 128 GB 8TB - 2 x 48" - 1 x 27" screen --- Logic Pro --- Mir Pro 3D Dolby Atmos --- Most of the VI libs, a few Synch... libs --- Quite a few Kontakt libs --- CS80 fanatic
  • Question for Paul and anyone else to help out.

    Smart Orchestra.

    When you use the pads option, can you substitute that particular pre-set instrument with any other VSL instrument?

    Patrick


  • Very sorry. I meant can you substitute the solo instrument with any other VSL solo instrument above the pads.

    Actually, can VSL say what specific solo instrument was used for the 'pads + solo' instrument patches in case you change it ( if you can) with another?

    Patrick


  • Hi Patrick, 

    The Solo instruments are always legato patches from our existing VI Collections. 

    Sorry if I am dense, but what exactly would you like to do?

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • Hi Paul,

    Many thanks. I was thinking whether I could , say, substitute or change the strings that are automatically used in the Pads+ Solo with the appassionata strings or something similar, and the same change in the woodwinds with a different VSL woodwind instrument. Just for further variety.

    Patrick


  • Hi, 

    You can add other Synchron Series instruments, but you will have to check that they are using the same mixer setup. You can NOT load VI collections in the Synchron Player. 

    To be safe, I'd keep different products on different tracks. 

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL