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  • So that is how it will go on, after William would have added, that he pretends (without any concrete prof) I would have alledgly "insulted" Guy and Acclarion ads his +1, every body thinks it was me who has posted all those persopnal aggressions, far away from any relation to the real subject of this thread and Paul and Dietz will ask me to stop what ever no one can exactly quote in any of my postings, while ignoring tons of rage attacks as those we constantly see in postings of a handful of Users here, who where tolerated by the admins without any correcting comment. at all. And finally Paul will close this thread and all who have been aggressive here again as they have been before so often will feel that they are on the "right site" and will go on to be agressive as they have been before.  Since this seems to be the atmosphere the Admins do want to support.

    However the reality is: we are what we are how ever aggressive anyone is I have to live with his short comings as he has to live with me as I am. 

    While the things could be so easy: I already asked the Admins more than once: If ever I would have posted one inapropriate word, just tell me the concrrete posting and I will correct it  to a more suitable formulation. 

    But: No one, no Admin no one who feels in the position to loose all his constraint for being aggressive against me was able  to name me any concrete inappropriate word justifying anything.

    While, if I would start naming every siingle example of direct personal aggression against my person, it would be a tremendously long list of coincrete examples of completly nappropriate personal aggresions.

    So in short I am not responsible for anyone who looses his controle andwho cant hold back his rage attacks.

    It is always the responsability of the one who is aggressive. No one else.

    So if you really want to continue like that ask your self is that realy the one you want to be?


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    Normally I would not write here in those difficult cases. But did someone notice that Dietz wrote ...

    Dietz: It's hard to keep track of "what" and "where" when every second thread seems to derail in "I'm right and you're not"

    That remembers me in a related posting from user BBelius who wrote ...

    BBelius: I don't care if someone has a fight with somone else, unless I have to read all the useless conversations to get the information between those posts I'm looking for.

    I think it is wrong to ..

    a) ... to continue with "I'm right and you are wrong"- games; especially when already a similar MIR-thread has been closed (BTW ... what I always enjoy is that MIR feels so natural that technical topics are pretty unrelevant). 
    b) ... to reprimand someone for his English language skills. It is not the first time that this happens. We are all encouraged to speak English here - no matter where we come from. And I remember that one guy from China did not dare to write here for years because he thougt his Englisch was too bad.

    All of this is completely unnecessary.


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    @LAJ said:

    b) ... to reprimand someone for his English language skills. It is not the first time that this happens. We are all encouraged to speak English here - no matter where we come from. And I remember that one guy from China did not dare to write here for years because he thougt his Englisch was too bad.

    All of this is completely unnecessary.

    You are right, and I won't and have never criticized anyone for his/her English skills before. I am also a novice and that department as English is not my first language and I haven't actually lived in UK/US or anything like that where I would be able to vastly improve my skills there. The difference is that fahl tries so hard writing academic and complicated stuff and that does not work well when you don't master basic English skills. And had he been humble and frank about this (or anything) I would never had taken that road. The language barrier is just an extra contributing factor to the confusion and frustration present in everything fahl touches here.


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    @Simon Ravn said:

    The difference is that fahl tries so hard writing academic and complicated stuff and that does not work well when you don't master basic English skills. And had he been humble and frank about this (or anything) I would never had taken that road. The language barrier is just an extra contributing factor to the confusion and frustration present in everything fahl touches here.

    again you dont just take responsability for your own behavior, which you self know is wrong, pretending whatever I alledgedly "try hard" would justify that you do something what  youself know is inappropriate to do.

    Be honest and take responsability for yourself. And dont think debasing me would be justification enough for you to act inappropriate.


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    Hello everybody, 

    We all need to calm down. Please. 

    Why not make this weekend a forum-free one? 😊

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Paul said:

    Hello everybody, 

    We all need to calm down. Please. 

    Why not make this weekend a forum-free one? 😊

    Best, 
    Paul

    I am pretty calm, but the Problem of personal aggressions tolerated without any public correction by the admins will remain as long you accept that users are call by others "psychotic", "mentally ill" "the most toxic" etc.

    You know that this is of course nothing which will be wiped out by one weekend, as long those who show that misbehavior dont realise that they are responsioble for what they are doing and not longer supported by the admins who tolerates that the comunication in this Forum is continously damaged with getting inapropriatly personal like that.

    As I said: name me any concrete inapropriate behavior you can find in any of my postings and I will correct it and care for to keep of that in future, but stay reasonable and do not perseciute just one person without any concrete reaqson for what many people do here more than concrete again and again, but consequently correct the wrong behavior no matter who ever might be responsible for.


  • Hi fahl5, 

    Maybe 2 weeks?

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Paul said:

    Hi fahl5, 

    Maybe 2 weeks?

    Best, 
    Paul

    Just ask those who post continuesly direct personal aggressions how long they need to stop that misbehavior. I dont need even a second, since I already said: It is neither my way nor my intention to comunicate in any personal aggressive way and I am instantaneously ready to correct everything in my postings what ever proves to be in any way inappropriate.

    Unfortunatly it seems as if neither any admin nor anyone else could quote anything like that from my contributions here yet, so I fear it is as I already said, better ask those who contantly show concrete misbehavior how long they need to come back to a moderate, respectful civilised comunication.


  • Hi, 

    Those are only friendly suggestions. I have tried it, it helps me. 

    Best,
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Paul said:

    Hi, 

    Those are only friendly suggestions. I have tried it, it helps me. 

    Best,
    Paul

    For whom?

    For what concrete reason?


  • Hi, 

    I have addressed "everybody", if you read my previous message carefully. 

    It means "STOP". 

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Paul said:

    Hi, 

    I have addressed "everybody", if you read my previous message carefully. 

    It means "STOP". 

    Best, 
    Paul

    Sorry  I just havent found the word "everyboy" in your "previous message".

    So it is good that you made this point a bit more clear now for everybody.

    I hope it helps "everybody" to come back to a respectful comunication with  "everybody".


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    Well, I guess you see what you want to see. 

    @Paul said:

    Hello everybody, 

    We all need to calm down. Please. 

    Why not make this weekend a forum-free one? 😊

    Best, 
    Paul

    Have a great weekend!

    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Paul said:

    Well, I guess you see what you want to see. 

    Have a great weekend!

    Paul

    Oops, sorry I obviously was to lazy to scroll back that far.

    while that "everybody" is of course exactly what I do like very much and therefor defenitly "want" to see....

    Great Weekand for you to....


  • Well I learned a lot about Synchronized Appassionata Strings on this thread!! Wow.


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    @rinky said:

    Well I learned a lot about Synchronized Appassionata Strings on this thread!! Wow.

    To summarize it:

    • They are available,
    • You can download them
    • they dont overwrite the VI Appassionata strings
    • some like them more than Synchron Libraries
    • they are made acousticly compatible to the Synchronseries with MIR Synchron-Venue Impuls Responses
    • And we should all talk kind, patient and focussed together and have a nice weekend

    Thats not nothing considering the fact that they are just a few days available and here are scarcly so much who seriously had the chance to work in deptzh with them.

    In short You are absolutly right 😃


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    For the life of me, I canot get the Synchronized Appassionata to appear or load into the Library. I've uninstalled and reinstalled a few times to no avail. Watched the video tutorial as well.

    Anyone else ran into this problem?

    Screen shot


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    @rinky said:

    For the life of me, I canot  get the Synchronized Appassionata to appear or load into the Library. I've uninstalled and reinstalled a few times to no avail. Watched the video tutorial as well.

    Anyone else ran into this problem?

    Screen shot

     

    Try getting the latest eLicenser installed. This caused me grief with Synchron Strings I.

     

    Todd


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    Bam!! I wasted so much time diagnosing the problem. The instruction did say that updating eLC is a must - I thought I already did, but alas, I was resyncing the licenses instead.

    Many thanks, Todd!!


  • Okay, I finally decided to buy the synchron-ized Appassionata Strings... 

    My verdict: Awesome! Enhanced legato (I never liked the original ones), enhanced vibrato. And the EQ is exactly my "hollywood" taste. Perfect (!) companion to LASS. No EQ-matching needed. VSL, you did a great job! :)

    But I've have to say that I'm missing the humanize features of VI Pro. Especially for faster passages and runs where I could make (subtle) intonation blurs. Pity also that the "slur" patches from the original one are not available, they also helped for runs. And, of course, where are the con sordinos?

    But again: I never thought it, but I really, really like this re-editing. I'm angry now that I didn't buy the Chamber Strings for the reduced price.


    EDIT:

    My opinion on the legatos: I always increase the release slider in VI Pro to make the legatos smoother, and then the old ones are nearly identical to the new ones. Maybe it's imagination, but I like the new ones better, they sound a bit different.

    For me, even the "strong" vibrato patches sound stronger than the old ones, which I really like. 

    The EQ preset and the convolution module helps also in the sound. Of course, you can say that you can achieve it with MIR Pro, I tried it, I can't achieve the same sonic impression (maybe due to my lacking mixing skills). Still waiting for the MIRx presets for Synchron Stage, hoping they will be released soon. I also think, but don't know, that besides the EQ there is some re-mastering applied. Playing chords or polyphonic legato with new ones sound "clearer" or "modern", with old ones more "darker" or "vintage". Just my impression! I prefer the new ones.

    But it's always a matter of taste...