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  • Synchron Player Articulation Switching

     

    Hello,

    what are your prefered ways to switch articulations right now?

     

    Im still trying to found out if there is a option or workaround to switch through articulations via programm changes (PG) or at least CC

    Right now I switch my VIPRO-Tracks with program changes inside the midi events.
    In order to copy events from a VIPRO-based track to a SynchronPlayer-based I would need to able to be able to switch via PG and also match the same values.

    - I am not able to have the switch learn program change - 

    Im trying to avoid using keyswitches all together in the future

     

    Thanks for your help


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    Just click on the White Field under "Articulation" (you can do that of course also with every Articulation Dimention like "Vel.Range", "Type", Vibrato", "Attack" or your own added or programmed Dimension) and you will find a menu to chose the for your need most appropriate way to controle the Articulationswitch you can chose beside "Note" and "White note" not nly "Program Change". If you like to use a CC instead you could chose one of the 8 available "Dimension controler".

    In the "Controle" panel below the Articulationswitch section you can configure in which way each of the Controlersliders and "Dimension Controles" your use are triggered. Among  (others you find also "Controler" which allows you to asign a certain CC to the Dimension controle you have chosen.)

    To be clear, this is just a regulary possible way to make use of the highly customizable Synchronplayer. So no "workaround" is needed at all.

    In short: However if you want to use CC for Articulationselection no problem just chose them. 😃

    I hope I was able to help


  • Thank you!

    I am only able to switch via Dimensions via CC (instead of PG).

    Which means in VIPro I would be limited to just 12 cells, am I correct?

     

    That bothers me because I wanted to setup all my VIPro Instances and Synchron Player the same way concercing switching (Program Change). 

    for example PG20 being Legato Regular for every instrument wether VIPRO or SP

    That way I would be able to move midi events from every instrument to another and be free of keyswitching

     

    Thanks everyone

     

     

    EDIT: I really cant get Synchron Player to learn that for example Dim.Ctrl.F should be controlled by Program Change


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    @Another User said:


     

    EDIT: I really cant get Synchron Player to learn that for example Dim.Ctrl.F should be controlled by Program Change

    That is right. the Dimension Controler could not be controled by Program change, but you can chose any of the regular 127 CC's instead.

    However as I said you do not need a Dimension Controler if you want to select tha positions of a Articulation Dimension by Program change as I said chose it directly in the Menu that pops up in the White field under the Name of your Articulation-Dimension.

    I hope that helps


  • Synchron Harp is not responding well to keyswitches. for instance when i have gliss up and down going over 8 bars with chord changes on each bar the key wheel not responding to recorded key switches. if i delete white keys it will.  is this a bug? also other keyswitches not always reliable


  • Synchron Harp is not responding well to keyswitches. for instance when i have gliss up and down going over 8 bars with chord changes on each bar the key wheel not responding to recorded key switches. if i delete white keys it will.  is this a bug? also other keyswitches not always reliable


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    Hi Nick,

    You probably forgot to mention the update I sent you via support:

    We have integrated a feature in the settings of the harp, called "Keyswitch Grace Period" (#9), which should prevent you from accidentally triggering keyswitches while playing wild glissandos on the white keys.

    If you set that value to series, there will be no keyswitch collisions when you place a keyswitch VERY close to the next played note.

    Best,
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Arsenal said:

     

    ... Im trying to avoid using keyswitches all together in the future

     Thanks for your help

    Even though you seem to want to say goodbye to keyswitches, here is a link to a video about the choice of articulation. Maybe it can change your mind.





    All the best

    Beat


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    @Beat Kaufmann said:

    Even though you seem to want to say goodbye to keyswitches, here is a link to a video about the choice of articulation. Maybe it can change your mind.





    Beat Kaufmann,

    That looks like an interesting approach. Thanks for pointing this out.


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  • I really don't understand why anyone would use key-switches instead of expression maps/articulations sets/sound variations (cubase/logic/studio one).

    VSL even provides expression maps (at least for the libraries i have), so no need to make custom presets or to build your own.

    You can just map remote notes or program changes for the articulations you need to access on the fly while playing, and the rest you can choose from the articulations menu, after you have recorded your performance.

    And if you are consistent you can choose the same remote midi messages for different libraries.

    I prefer switching everything to attribute rather direction in cubase, so that i don't even use the articulation lanes, since there are dozens of them and it becomes too cluttered.

    But i can't think of a single advantage of using key switches, unless i misunderstood something.