Hi Paul,

Congrats for the beautiful library and its player, and also thank you for the info regarding the faderfox unit !

All best,

B

Hello Paul,

 Thanks for ths, was eagerly waiting!! 

Cheers

Neelesh

Hi Neelesh, 

We have started with the first violins and added the MULTI Library download for first violins yesterday. All sections will follow over the course of th next days (making sure that we can provide sufficient download performance for everyone). 

Best, 
Paul

Thanks Paul!!

Is the link for the Violin 2 active yet? I dont seem to find it in myvsl..

Cheers

Hi, 

Sorry, my mistake, it was the MULTI Library for first violins that was added yesterday. I think the second violins will be added soon. 

Best, 
Paul

Hi everybody,

2nd violins STEREO Download is online now!

Best,

Paul

Hi there,

thanks for providing the Synchron Player. I am still testing all the new features. :)

BUT: I am experiencing heavy dropouts even with just one microphone. It has nothng to do with the voice limit, I checked this. Maybe I'm doing something wrong... I tried the Player in Logic as a plugin and in VE Pro, both the same. I have no SSD and the loading times are immense. For me, it sounds sometimes that not all samples are loaded, because I can't really play repititions, too. Or is this the normal behaviour?

I am working on macOS Sierra (10.12.6) on a Mac Pro 3,46 GHz 6-Core (2009 version) with 32 GB RAM.

Hi Paul thank you for your prompt reply.

In this case we could delete the old files of the Strings I. Right?

Quote from https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Synchron_Package/Synchron_Strings_I#!FAQ :

"Q: Is it mandatory to use an SSD? Will my HDD also work?

A: We have added an SSD as a system requirement for using our Synchron Series products because you will run into long loading times and a weak performance when working with the access and streaming times of a HDD. If you want to give it a try, we will not hold you back, but please make sure that you have set the PRELOAD time for your sample content to 16384 samples."

@bbelius said:

Quote from https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Synchron_Package/Synchron_Strings_I#!FAQ :

"Q: Is it mandatory to use an SSD? Will my HDD also work?

A: We have added an SSD as a system requirement for using our Synchron Series products because you will run into long loading times and a weak performance when working with the access and streaming times of a HDD. If you want to give it a try, we will not hold you back, but please make sure that you have set the PRELOAD time for your sample content to 16384 samples."

Thanks for your feedback, guys. Great! The PRELOAD size changed everything.

Legatoslur is not as good as other strings. It's not working!!! Hollywood, Lass, etc., and then ask for a refund!!

@yilalatavsl said:

Legatoslur is not as good as other strings. It's not working!!! Hollywood, Lass, etc., and then ask for a refund!!

Cellos are available!!

Something with Synchron player is pretty nice. The concept is brilliant, the design is ok. But from a musical performance point of view I have to admit complaints are more than justified.

The idea of managing slurs articulations and dynamics with overlappings, XF and scripts (then with manipulation of a limited set of samples) was obviously dictated by the need of saving resources to be dedicated to multi MIC management, and was also designed to link effects to different type of sustain (e.g. slur to different vibratos, marcatos, fp etc.). Ok but...

Now the problem is that a WET set of samples, will open problems with release and reverb levels, and despite the hard work of developers, still the player is doing very unpleasent things, I'm starting to doubt will ever be possible to fix:

- the "legato blur" controller is increasing the "wet" feeling to unacceptable level, with strange resonances and long tails. In my very humble opinion it's not adding realism to the legato, the opposite it makes it sound more like a scripted legato.

- the legato-slur some people is criticizing so much, is in my opinion sounding a bit weird because now the slurs are stand alone samples linking with scripts to pretty alien sustains samples, and probably this is the source of some unnatural effect. It was definitely "reinvented". Maybe not yet in a superior or better way, unfortunately.

- the algorithmic reverb should be turned off to get the "real" sound, but if you do it, the "naked" connections of different samples are exposed and not always sounding well enough... (that's what VSL calls "sweetening" the Synchron Stage sound...)

- the Cellos have some pretty strange resonances (sound like open strings ringing forever despite note-off, but in theory, with reverb turned off and release samples to zero, they should disappear... instead they sound even more evident and kind of synth wave... not sure what they are and where they come from, but they are definitely disturbing).

Of course I still hope the VSL software developers (I consider them simply the best team in the industry, and pieces of software like MIR and VE are proving it) will improve the product step by step and maybe future versions will be really better. Now the product in my very humble opinion doesn't match all the promises, and of course doesn't match expectation of several faithful users. Crossing fingers and looking forward to next bug fixes...

Yes the concept of "dimensions of articulations" is ingenius. 😛(And of course it is even more ingenoius, that they even managed to reealise it as it was suggested)

To improve all possible details of its usage is always a process which not at least depend on the users and their demands.

However the concept is still groundbreaking and pushes VSL far above all existing solutions how to musical reasonable organize the wealth of dedicated Samplelibraries.

We cant estimate high enough that they made this couragous step and yes I think we all can and will help them to imrpove their Products with all our expirience of its usage.

I like the player. It lacks keyboard support though and everything has to be clicked by mouse to apply, but I like it. There is very smart idea behind it and building presets feels fresh and deep.

But what I don't like is that VSL is dialing legato blur at 30 and adds algo reverb by default (reverb sounds very nice though). So by default we don't hear natural acoustics of stage in ambient library. Is there something wrong with this stage? Or you think that users won't appreciate raw, natural sound of Synchrons?

Second, The Blur - overlaping transition with unnatural release from previous note is not true legato. It is a trick which could work for librararies without true legato. Why do you guys want us to blur the transitions that were played by great musicians and recorded by master engineers? Why you don't want us to hear true legato and instead of that you promote "smeared release"?

And the last - slur. I would like to hear how to use it. Why the slur seems to be random? I created patch that is  crossfading normal legato with slured and I kinda like it, but I never know where the slur will occur. Big interval? Small interval? Random interval? ;)

In the end player is huge step forward, made this library workable. But "legato" based on cheap trick which is easy to spot (huge build-up of fake release) is just bad magic.

Tbh I don't expect answers, although I truly would like to hear some. Because signs that I see are basically saying that you are not that proud of your kid, but you just don't want to say that out loud.

@Piotr Katzpersky said:

I like the player. ...

In the end player is huge step forward, made this library workable. But "legato" based on cheap trick which is easy to spot (huge build-up of fake release) is just bad magic.

Tbh I don't expect answers, although I truly would like to hear some. Because signs that I see are basically saying that you are not that proud of your kid, but you just don't want to say that out loud.

Hi Piotr, I almost quoted your whole post... just few hours before you posted it 😊 Anyway I'm happy others feel the same and have the same technical understanding, it increases the probability and hope that VSL will work on the listed points.

@fatis12_24918 said:

Hi Piotr, I almost quoted your whole post... just few hours before you posted it 😊 Anyway I'm happy others feel the same and have the same technical understanding, it increases the probability and hope that VSL will work on the listed points.

Haha, yes, I'm aware of that, I red your post and I was like: should I write what I wanted to write or just say "I agree 100%"? But I decided that this forum needs another long post about thing that bugs (probably not only) us 😉