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  • As ever, exciting news. But it would be very helpful before purchase if VSL could provide some information about what Synchron Strings can do which something like the Dimension Strings can't. I'm not thinking so much about the number of articulations, but more what the basic sounds will do. And especially in the context of being triggered by Sibelius, assuming there will be a soundset.


  • https://forum.vsl.co.at/topic/47817/Bought/266053

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    Hi everybody!

    Thanks for all your questions, comments (and speculations ๐Ÿ˜)!

    Itโ€™s great to see that a lot of your wishful thinking are actually very thoughtful wishes ๐Ÿ’ก

    We will add more information in time.

    Until then: Enjoy the excitement and anticipation! We certainly do!

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
  • Thanks, Paul!

    I only wanted to know what โ€œin timeโ€ does mean? Do we get more information before the early bird offer ends?That would be great.


  • Hi,

    "In time" means when we are ready to provide more information. We will definitely share more information before the early bird offer ends. 

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
  • These strings are simply amazing! Question, since ambience is already recorded with those strings, I assume they don't need to be placed in a MIR Pro venue such as Syncron Stage?


  • No you don't need MIR. Like the Synchron Percussion. They are recorded with reverb.

    If you want to use some of the other dry-recored samples with the synchron series, just use the dry instruments in MIR in combination with roompack 6 (Synchron Stage).


    Ben@VSL | IT & Product Specialist
  • Ah great! It's awesome I don't have to worry about placing them in MIR... Can't wait for the new player!


  • "...how long the note should sustain is simply not available at the moment a mere note-on message is received and at which the algorithm would have to pick an articulation."

    Are you suggesting that VSL developers can't break the time-space continuum, i.e., tell the future? :-)  I too was going to discuss the impossibilities, but A. I have a lot of faith in VSL to do something outside of my imagination, B. they might aim for a "second pass" algorithm (as Kai described), and C. it was bedtime. But you are correct, of course, that note-on and velocity only, played live, has too little information to pick sample length and playing style. 

    Bring on the speculation. I haven't seen a tease campaign this much fun since the advent of Vienna Instruments. 

    By the way, for you folks in the States, you're getting a further discount (over 15%) if you buy in dollars (Ilio, et al) than online (in Euros). That is another kindness VSL extends, often unnoticed. It makes the math a whole lot simpler. Also, if you buy in Euros from the States, your credit card may ding you with a currency conversion fee.

    There's a speed bump, though, with Ilio: they can take a day or so to confirm the purchase and send the codes. 


  • Great Paul, but we need an strings-only demo! 


  • A couple of questions for VSL:

    Is the new Synchron Player only for Synchron libraries, or will it be able to be used with the older libraries as well?

    I'm really interested in the articulation switching, especially when played live. Could you post a video of someone playing a string section in real time showing how how different articulations are triggered or switched to? Also, seeing a video of how articulations are triggerd in Sibelius would be very helpful.

    Thanks!

    Michael


  • Hi,

    I went ahead, and purchased VSL Synchron Strings (Full Version) .  

    I used some VSL Vouchers I was holding on to quite a while back, which came in very handy !  

    Looking forward to more info. updates, and some really well crafted audio demos, and if possible some video tutorial demos of the new Synchron Player in action playing the new Synchron Strings I. 

    I'm super confident that Synchron Stirngs I sound amazing !  

    Thank You Very Much VSL, and Congratulations for making the move to your Synchron Stage based Libraries. I'm super excited, and delighted with these new developemnts, and would love to see the Brass, Woodwinds, then more Strings, ..etc. Released as time goes by. 

    Cheers,

    Muziksculp 


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    There are some things that I would miss without MIR. Especially the PreEQs ("Silk" blends normal Strings so well with Mutet Strings). Please add the MIR PreEQ to the Synchron-Player if possible.

    Thanks.


    LAJ VS. RMB - E X P E R I E N C E (Orchestral-Techno Remake) --> https://youtu.be/c5Br29cS-5Q
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    I've never been more excited about a library. Never.

     

    For years I only ever used VSL. Now I do use others, but VSL is always my favorite. BUT... the only reason I ever used anyone else was softer staccato attacks, more RR's for some articulations, and brilliant rooms. You guys didn't just take user feedback seriously, you took it to a whole freaking new level. Am I surprized? No. Am I freaking out with giddishly awesome joy? Possibly. It's so... beautiful. ๐Ÿ˜ข๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ˜ƒ

     

    Can't wait to hear the demos!

     

    -Sean


  • Can someone explain what this means from the product info page: "Weโ€™ve developed a new sampling process wherein all performances are recorded and edited at 'fixed gain'"?


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    @nektarios said:

    Can someone explain what this means from the product info page: "Weโ€™ve developed a new sampling process wherein all performances are recorded and edited at 'fixed gain'"?

    I am assuming it means that the natural dynamic levels of each layer are captured in relation to each other so that the correct dynamic range of the instrument is preserved, also preserving the natural balance with the other instruments.  If that is the case and will extend to future brass and woodwind that would be very welcome. 

    Achieving accurate balance between dynamic layers and different instruments that are all recorded at essentially the same volume is both tricky and frustrating despite the tools available - and when it comes to dynamic layer balancing almost impossible to do in any meaningful way with the current software.

    I also notice there is no mention of performance trills (I'm guessing the half and whole trills listed are the traditional sampled type) - is this because they are simply included as the fastest layer of performance legato?  Considering the number of repetitions that are now available this would make sense - and would be very convenient.


  • Wow, that is awesome! 


  • I have already bought it

    SYNCHRON STRINGS I

     

     

     

     

    SYNCHRON STRINGS I include all these instruments?

     

     

     

    The sections of 1st violins (14), 2nd violins (10), violas (8), cellos (8), and double basses (6)




  • Actually, I do use other libraries such as Berlin Strings and only reason I ever used anyone else was too much better legato script, short note attacks and huge detail sampled short/long articulations, etc. You didn't just take user feedback seriously.

    Have you made decision yet on any usefull articulations as bellow ?

    Legato Slurred, Expressive
    Legato Agile
    Legato Fingered
    Ostinato Arpeggio Legato slow/fast


    Spiccatissimo
    Spiccato
    Spiccato Exposed
    Staccato
    Staccato Bold
    Martele FFF
    Portato Short
    Portato Long
    Repetitions slow/fast
    Blurred Spiccato
    Blurred Staccato
    Blurred Portato


    Flageolet Sustain
    Sustain Soft
    Sustain Immediate
    Sustain Accented
    Sustain Expressive Dyn (Short expr.)
    Sustain Expressive Dyn (Long expr.)


    Sul Ponticello Leg
    Sul Ponticello Tremolo
    Sul Ponticello Tremolo Accented
    Sul Ponticello Staccato
    Sul Ponticello Sustain
    Sul Tasto Legato
    Sul Tasto Portato Short
    Sul Tasto Portato Long
    Sul Tasto Sustain Immediate
    Sul Tasto Sustain Soft
    Sul Tasto Tremolo


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    Hm, you know the Berlin Strings than so you will know that their 

    • section size is something between an a bit to small symphonic or a bit to large chamber ensemble
    • it comes without any real recorded con sordino samples at all.
    • and it has not more mic-posittions then the standard version of the SyStr. and
    • ithas just half of the amount of velocitylayers ( not to talk abot the large amount of Variants recorded for each articulationtype in SyStr.)

    The Berlin Strings Articulationlist seems to be impressive on the first glance, but as far as I understood VSL SyStr. is nothing more than a Volme 1.

    I am pretty sure that a Volume II will include not only an original sordino articulationset as we know it from VSL (I expect also the Sul Pont, Sul Tasto, Harmonics articulations we have got for all previous VSL stringlibraries).

    But yes the different legatotypes seem to be not that different if you compare just the names. But again when it comes to recorded Variants and Vel.Layers the SyStr seem to provide that much more real recorded details of the stringsound that scripting must not so much alter synthetically the recorded Stringsound as it seem to me pretty audible the case for the Berlin Strings

    However Lets wait what the audible reality of SyStr will be, since technical details and features are one side. Viennese Strings another ๐Ÿ˜‰