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Does Synchron Strings I come with the entire string section (Violins 1&2, Violas, Celli and Basses), or just Violins & Cellos?
On the last frame of the promo video it says "Synchron Strings I (Violins & Cellos)", hopefully I'm not mistaken by the wording.
According to the product page : Quote "• 1st Violins, 2nd Violins, Violas, Cellos, Basses, recorded at their designated places on stage"
8 velocity layers (even for the legatos) sounds just great 😊. However, at least so far, there seems to be far less content compared to current Cube libraries. I have two questions:
- presently we have up to 5 standard note lengths: staccato, short detache, medium detache, long portato and sustained. In the new library there is apparently only: short, long portato and long. How do they relate?
- the new libraries include up to 10 variations. Does this mean these new patches include the previous repetition patches (where also the transitions between the notes are sampled), or is it merely 10 “independent” variations (instead of 4 presently)?
1) It would be nice to have seperate Informations about the Synchon-Strings-Project in general and what exactly is meant to be Sy-Str I.
2) Violins + Cellos
Acccrding to the last moment of the promovideo SyStrI seem to be only "Violins and Cellos"
As far they are recorded "in situ" this must mean Violins 1 and Violins 2
....... but does it likewise mean also Cellos 1 and 2 ?
3) Articulations
I always was very happy to have a good variety of diffferent "short articulations the announced Sample content now lists 4 types of large notes but only one type of short notes.
....Does the "short notes" of the Synchron Strings include spiccato, staccatos detaches etc?
While there are different types of sforzandos and Larger notes for instance with and without vibrato listed, how is it with the Synchron Legato.
....Is there only one kind of Legato recorded at all, or is iit it applyable on the different types of the sustains and sforzandos to get legatophrases with marcato accents and diferent amount of legato?
4) Sordino
There are no "sordino" articulations announced as they have been part of the orchestral strings.
... Would a full set of sordino articulation will make seperate libraries as it was with Solo, Chamber and dimension strings, or would it be in any way chose/applyable on the already listed articulations of Sx-Str.I?
5) section size
Former VSL-Libraries have been notably characterized with their specific section size (or 'sizeability' 😉 in the case of the dimension strings).
.. in which section sizes are the Sy-Str. I recorded? Are other Sectionsizes or/and Synchron Solo-Libraries intended?
6) Harmonics, Sul tasto, sul pont col legno, etc.
... will there be seperate Synchron-Libraries to come with Harmonics, Sul ponticello and sul tasto patches or perhaps be part of a sordino set? (However it would be great to have more compehensive Articulationtypes for Sul pont, sul Tasto and harmonics than we have had beffore and also the combinations of sul tasto + Sul pont + Harmonics with sordino and legatos)
7) Again the question for Superpackage-Users Early bird offer:
Why should I order the early bird offer, as Superpackage user, if the reduction as part of the Superpackage will be at least likewise 30 % ??? (You should think about to reward faithful "Superpackers" with additional reductions in the early bird days otherwise I can not see any reason why I should preorder anything, which will stay for me always at the same price)
However I am very excited to hear more datails about the Synchron-Player and its features....
"You can see the section size in the photographs..."
Should I count the players Could you see who is playing 1. Violin and who 2. Violin and if the Cellos are divided or not?
Those pictures might be very "informative", but I still would prefer to have the exact number of players per section.
"Sordino would naturally be in S Strings II"
And what will be Viola and Basses and the sordinos of Viola + Basses?
I still think here is "something" to make more clear especially for those who intend to buy something without exactly knowledge what is not included in this early bird offer.
And what will be Viola and Basses and the sordinos of Viola + Basses?
I still think here is "something" to make more clear especially for those who intend to buy something without exactly knowledge wwhat is included in this early bird offer.
You're right, it isn't clear at all. But I think they didn't include the violas and basses in the demo because they just haven't finished editing them. As mentioned above (in the product page quote), the Synchron Strings I will include ALL the strings.
I'm really hoping the Synchron trills are a step above Dimension Strings, those get really buggy at high speeds
I'm really hoping the Synchron trills are a step above Dimension Strings, those get really buggy at high speeds
oh wow, oh wow oh wow!
Too much excitement - will I be able to sleep the next week until they are availble? 8 velocity layers? Fantastic! plus variations with them.
Really looking forward to hearing the demo's.
all the best vsl with this.
Steve :-)
I'm really hoping the Synchron trills are a step above Dimension Strings, those get really buggy at high speeds
the trills sound choppy when played fast, the viola ones don't even work.
but yeah pre-recorded? why do you say? could be better
Owner of many VSL libraries, including Dimension Strings complete. I purchased that in the Pre-production as well. I haven't used any VSL strings for probably a year or more now, almost exclusively using Spitfire, so this is intriguing. My questions are the same as anyone else's:
Anyway, don't get me wrong, not being negative, just need a lot more information before purchasing. But overall I love VSL products. I use Mir Pro and Ensemble Pro and woodwinds every day. Have just found Spitfire strings to be so much warmer and more expressive, and easy to work with.
Best!
Michael
“I always was very happy to have a good variety of different short articulations the announced Sample content now lists 4 types of large notes but only one type of short notes.”
“- presently we have up to 5 standard note lengths: staccato, short detache, medium detache, long portato and sustained. In the new library there is apparently only: short, long portato and long. How do they relate?”
I'm only guessing here, but Synchron may be able to vary short sounds dynamically, depeding on how they're played -- or at least switch from short to long as the MIDI note and CC's dictate. Consider this from the announcement:
"New algorithms require a minimum of manual articulation switching."
New samples and platforms are exciting, but anything that relieves deep, datailed, endless keyswitching would be genuinely ground-breaking.
New samples and platforms are exciting, but anything that relieves deep, datailed, endless keyswitching would be genuinely ground-breaking.
this sounds nice, but how could an algorithm “know” if you want to play a staccato or a short detache (not to mention more fancy stuff like spiccato, harsh, …)? The information how the attack phase should be played and how long the note should sustain is simply not available at the moment a mere note-on message is received and at which the algorithm would have to pick an articulation. The algorithm could only use the previously played notes to “guess a likely articulation”, but this would strongly restrict our freedom and is definitely not something I would want (or it should at least be possible to disable such a feature). Because with a given algorithm one might either be able to play Haydn or Stravinsky, but hardly both 😉.
They mention continuous controllers, which could surely be very useful if implemented properly (in particular if they would "morph" different articulations), but this is just another form of manual articulation selection ... and it would be nice to know what exactly they do.
In more or less "worse case" it might be, that those algorithm tends to decide at least some details of articulation selection "automatically" depending to keyvelocity and speed like some embertone or Spitfire patches seem to do. If this makes it more difficult to conciously decide every detail of articulationselection I would regret it.
But....
If we are lucky than they have just streamlined the articulation selection to the musical decisions and reduced the complexity we currently have especially with the very rich samplecontent of VSL-Libraries to handle every variety of articulation type.
What ever "Micro-articulation-switching" will mean, It will be a huge step forward as far it makes it easier to change certain aspect (Accent, Length, Vibrato, etc.) of an articulation, without setting up the selection control of all possible varieties with seperate keyswitches or CC-data to trigger different matrixfield for everything what might be used as we did it until now. If ever we keep at least the possibility to completly decide each detail of ariculation decision, this could make things very much more comforable.
At least the Velocitylayer X-Fade seem to be improved as far as I understand in both the soundquality as well as in they way the user could handle it.
I am quite curious to know every further usability improvement to come with the synchron player.
