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  • Vienna Suite Pro v. MIR Pro

    To start off I REALLY love Suite Pro, especially the equalizer, exciter, imager, compressor, and Hybrid Reverb. These plugins can work some serious magic when calibrated just right. I was thinking, wouldn't the Hybrid Reverb and Imager Pro, when carefully calibrated, accomplish the same task as MIR Pro? I'm thinking about buying MIR Pro in a few months but I just want some council from users of both sets of software. -WJT

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    Of course you can do wonderful mixes without MIR Pro, and Vienna Suite/Pro will put most of the tools you'll need for the task into your hands.

    But then, MIR Pro itself offers a unique approach to mixing as it allows for a holistic approach rather than a "put together the bits and pieces" workflow. You simply (... well: "simply"! 😉 ...) go into the room of your choice, invite some musicians to join you and tell them where they should get seated. Finally you'll set up the microphones of your choice, and there you go. - Think of MIR Pro as a way to run virtual recording sessions, while acting like a conductor rather than an operator.

    To achieve this, MIR uses a sophisticated combination of different techniques*) you won't find in any other application or tool, be it digital or analogue. ... in keeping with these ideas, you can't accomplish the same tasks with "just" Vienna Suite or Vienna Suite Pro. Actually, these products were meant to complement each other nicely, not to compete with each other. 😊

    *) ... some of these underlying techniques are covered in this little addendum to MIR Pro's Manual called "Think MIR!"

    Hope that helped,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Does MIR also relieve me of equalizing, or does it just cover aspects of reverb?

    I've been quite busy using Vienna Suite in the last few months and I've found it's even harder to get equalizer settings right than reverb settings. I would buy MIR in an instant if I wouldn't have to configure Equalizers, Exciters and Compressors any more.


  • Hi quioloy, 

    Why not check out MIR PRO with a free demo license? The RoomPacks are still available as special offer (30% off) for 2 more days, this will give you a great impression...

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @quioloy said:

    Does MIR also relieve me of equalizing, or does it just cover aspects of reverb?

    I've been quite busy using Vienna Suite in the last few months and I've found it's even harder to get equalizer settings right than reverb settings. I would buy MIR in an instant if I wouldn't have to configure Equalizers, Exciters and Compressors any more.

    Well - nothing can ever really relieve you of equalizing (or any other aspect of mixing), assuming that you don't mix the same single piece of music again and again. 8-) (... there was a nice article in SonicScoop just a few weeks ago, covering this topic in depth, BTW: -> https://sonicscoop.com/2017/06/15/you-could-be-much-better-at-eqing-dont-be-left-in-the-dust-or-the-ldfc-method-to-mastering-your-eq/ )

    ... that said, I've tried to make your quest for the appropriate mix as possible with MIR Pro: 

    • First of all, the natural spatialization that happens when you put instruments on the stage of a MIR Venue will reduce the need for changes to the sound of individual signal sources considerably. 
    • For more or less each single Vienna Instrument MIR offers at least five tailor-made "Character Presets" which allow for straight-forward adjustments to the chosen instrument's sound. 
    • Then there are the so-called "Venue Presets" for all halls available for MIR Pro. They are collections of Venue-specific settings which render the "raw" sound of the Venue into something much more refined, with individual Main and Secondary Microphone settings, suggested Room EQs and the like. ... imagine you had a team of professional reording engineers setting up the hall for your recording session. :-)
    • The most elaborated level of presets in MIR Pro can be accessed by enabling the so-called MIRx-mode. Here, I tried to achieve the impossible: A ready-made mix, for pieces of music not created yet. 😕  I sculpted individual EQ-settings for all (!) Vienna Instruments, taking into account their specific positions in one of five selected MIR Venues, with fine-tuned Room EQs, wet/dry-settings, Main and Secondary Microphone, and so on. - Read the announcement here

    ... I dare to say that you can't get closer to a pre-fabricated mix than with MIRx Presets --- and that is still quite a bit away from a final solution, as there is no way to pre-set any dynamic processors for you (as their settings will depend completely on the input), let alone specific SFX like exciters, echoes, modulation ...

    But as Paul wrote: Just try the demos, and take the time to dive into the possibilities, otherwise you will miss some of the goodies. 😊

    Kind regards,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Thanks for the elaborate answer (and for the link - great article btw)!
    I think I understand the concept better now.