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  • Demo by Thomas J. Bergersen

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    I'm very proud to introduce the first official Thomas J. Bergersen demo here on our site:
    http://vsl.co.at/demo_user?DP_ObergruppeID=5&DP_GruppeID=13

    It was really thrilling for me what kind of music Thomas will send us - and he surprised me a lot.

    "One night one love", a tribute to the 1960's golden days of Henry Mancini tells you everything.
    Our userdemo area is getting really entertaining. [:D]

    Thanks a lot, Thomas
    Herb

    short production note of the composer:
    It was composed on piano and then orchestrated for orchestra and band.
    The arrangement for strings was written out on paper first and then sequenced into Sonar.
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    Well, this piece certainly does capture that great Mancini sound of the Pink Panther era, bearing homage to It Had Better Be Tonight; if I recall correctly. And a damn good job indeed, one wants to open the car windows and breeze along a coastal highway.

    In regards to the articulations, they are of course mostly extremely convincing, however I am somewhat concerned with the expressive potential of the strings in general, as I have yet to hear an in-your-face lyrical espressivo sample that breaths and evolves in time as it is held. Another observation is that I feel I perceive a slight timing dissonance at the very end of the piece, the final phrase seems to go off a bit. Or is it just me?

    Alas it is the reality of these forums that even great little pieces like this are subjected to scrutiny of those who observe only, and no doubt whose comments may be far from legitimate. In the end, the fact is this piece works beautifully, a gestalt much greater than the sum of parts.

    Cheers, Gungnir
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    @gungnir said:

    ... as I have yet to hear an in-your-face lyrical espressivo sample that breaths and evolves in time as it is held.

    Thomas' early demo, "Remembering The Past", has some nicely expressive string parts in it though not in-your-face. This music never showed up on the VSL site though - just in a NS forum post.

    Excellent job Thomas! To bad there aren't any giga pianos with that close miced big midrange Mancini sound. What exactly is that bell-like sound? Is that a glock with soft rubber mallets?

    I've liked Henry Mancini since a young kid (my folks had many of his albums laying around). My favorite: "Breakfast At Tiffany's."

    Craig
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    Thank you for the kind words,

    VSL being such a huge project as it is, it's way too early to call it a complete symphonic library. What you are hearing in all the demos made using VSL so far shows the library's strengths with realtime legato playing. The whole interval sampling idea is revolutionary and if you're serious about making realistic orchestral music you shouldn't hesitate to make the purchase. It might be a lot of money but it will without doubt give you a big advantage over other midi composers using other libraries.

    Gugnir, the strings in VSL are a tad on the restrained side with regards to vibrato, which might be what you perceive as lack of expression. They are however constantly sampling new material and I there is no doubt in my mind that the library will eventually cover all imaginable articulations and performances. They want to make the library as flexible as possible for all kinds of users, and this is partly the reason why I made this demo - to show the library in a totally different musical context than what people are used to hearing in an orchestral demo. I didn't expect much of a reaction to be honest, I just like doing different music to expand my musical vocabulary. It's dangerous to get stuck in one style [[:)]]
    The timing in the end is awful, I know. I needed to end the piece and I just layed down a cheesy albeit functional closure.

    Csduke,
    The malmsjö piano is one of my favorite sampled pianos, and although you're right about the whole mid-range thing (the piece is actually quite heavily boosted in the mid range with EQ) I still believe that this piano works better than any other pianos I've tried for this particular style. Afterall it's actually quite difficult to get that gritty and dirty sound from the 60's in these days where everything is digital with crystal clear sound. [[:)]] It was fun to do, after being stuck with 100% orchestral cues for too long.
    The bell-like thing you are hearing could be the highs of my Roland Jv-80 super vibraphone patch (I didn't have enough ram to load Artvista's Cool Vibes so I had to cut some corners)

    Many thanks to VSL for the fabulous sounds!


    Thomas