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    I got myself some VSL woodwind libraries this month. A good opportunity to write a special composition for it. Also wrote an article / blog post about it. Hope you like it!

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  • «Enjoyable» is not the usual statement one links to twelve-tone music.

    Then, inspiration and life find a gap even in the most inteletualized effort —if it is a sincere one
    and coming from a skilled artist.

    You did a very good job here and VSL Woodwinds are the final back up to it.


    VI Special Edition 1-3, Reaper, MuseScore 3, Notion 3 (collecting dust), vst flotsam and jetsam
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    @Rubenizer said:

    I got myself some VSL woodwind libraries this month. A good opportunity to write a special composition for it. Also wrote an article / blog post about it. Hope you like it!

    Blog

    Youtube

     

    Great job. Great composition!


  • I am not an expert on atonal music but this sounds quite good to the ear. Nice work!

    btw how on earth did you put the breathing-in sound in measure 6?? Sounds like real players!

    Best

    Anand


  • Nice job!  Makes me wish I still had ny old Atari computer with a program to generate music based on the mathematical Mandelbrot series!

     

    Mark


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    Thanks everybody! Really appreciate the feedback.

    @agitato said:

    btw how on earth did you put the breathing-in sound in measure 6?? Sounds like real players!

    I recorded my own inhales, both through nose and mouth to simulate the different players breathing 😉

    Ruben


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    that so cool!

    @Rubenizer said:

    I recorded my own inhales, both through nose and mouth to simulate the different players breathing 😉

    Ruben


  • Hi Ruben !
    Nice and very interesting work !
    You wrote "I got myself some VSL woodwind libraries this month" and in your blog you mentioned "1 flute / piccolo, 1 oboe, 1 Bb clarinet, 1 bass clarinet and 1 bassoon. One solo instrument for each sample library I got".
    Can you please tell me exactly which specific (VSL-)instruments/libraries you did buy/use ?

    Kind regards,
    Elka


  • Thanks Elka!

    I used: Piccolo st.; Flute 2 full; French Oboe st.; Clarinet (Bb) 1 Full; Bass Clarinet st.; Bassoon 2.


  • I enjoyed your piece - great job making 12-tone music more accessible with the rhythmic drive you created and the passing of the theme among the instruments.  I love the sound of the Vienna woodwinds! 

    One word of caution though with the breaths: make sure they are fully finished before a note starts and that they are not too loud.  The breath before the pick-up note leading into measure 7 in the bassoon bleeds into the bassoon notes, and because of this the breathing actually sounds un-realistic as the breath would be fully finished before you hear the note played.  The rest of the instruments that come in on the downbeat of measure 7 would need their own breath separate from that of the bassoon (and this one would be less audible since they are not cueing).  I just spent the day teaching breathing and cueing to a chamber music class so I'm being a bit nit picky because this is exactly what I have been explaining to my woodwind students all morning.

    Great job shaping the phrases too.  Are you using a mix of expression and velocity x-fade? I'm still learning what my best balance with this is.

    - Becky


  • As this was my first time simulating the breathings this way these kind of notes are very useful. Thank you so much Becky!

    I try to do as much as possible with only velocity x-fade. I have dedicated faders assigned to the x-fade and expression (and other parameters) and record the x-fade along with the notes for the best human feel and timing. After that I look what needs to happen with the expression. Sometimes I draw the automation, sometimes I record it as well. Depends on the tempo and complexity of the automation.

    Something that occures regularly is that I move the velocity x-fader too slow so you will hear a clear fade between samples which isn't always pretty (at least with solo instruments, with ensembles like Epic Horns I really like the in between sound). When this happens I adjust the x-fade parameter for a quicker fade and compensate the general feeling with expression.


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    @Rubenizer said:

    Thanks Elka! I used: Piccolo st.; Flute 2 full; French Oboe st.; Clarinet (Bb) 1 Full; Bass Clarinet st.; Bassoon 2.
    Hi Ruben, thank you very much indeed for your (quick) reply ! Elka

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