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    @tek0010 said:

    The "natural" sound would be the air-pressure wave emitted by the instrument in an anechoic chamber:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anechoic_chamber

    It was a rhetorical question. Usually, sample libraries aren't anechoic.
  • N
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    My impression was always that VSL was recorded in an anechoic chamber (or very close to it). Other cheap sample libraries usually are not.
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    Vienna Instruments aren't recorded in an anechoic chamber; far from it. There is quite a lot of "room" on the samples. It is easy to hear the difference when you put them side by side with samples that are recorded that way. If I get a chance next week, I'll put a little audio example together so that you can hear what I'm talking about (sorry, no time before then)

    DG
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    Thank you DG! Btw, the reason I even started this thread, is because of a sample mix you posted a few months back for one of my Dimension Stings pieces (playing a chord progression). I remember you sent me the EQ settings so I can apply them myself in MIR, but it never quite sounded the same yours. Unfortunately, you didn't use MIR PRO to create it. The version I have now sounds much better (with the use of VSL EQ presets), but I could never quite make it sound like your mix.

    @DG said:

    Vienna Instruments aren't recorded in an anechoic chamber; far from it. There is quite a lot of "room" on the samples. It is easy to hear the difference when you put them side by side with samples that are recorded that way. If I get a chance next week, I'll put a little audio example together so that you can hear what I'm talking about (sorry, no time before then)

    DG
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    Here is the piece I am currently working on (still in draft mode):

    Eastern Dream.mp3

    It's MIR PRO/Dimension Strings/Chamber Strings/Horns 8/etc.

    (I also use a non VSL instrument, the Ukrainian Bandura).

    Here is my VE PRO 5 Project File:

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33556625/Eastern_Dream_All_06_27_2015.viframe64

    Any suggestions or improvements would be greatly appreciated!

    Thank you!

    -Nektarios
  • Beat KaufmannB
    Beat KaufmannB

    Hello all

    Convolution Reverbs use Impulse Responses. IRs are acoustic copies of rooms. All! rooms have their resonances, room modes... called "colours" in this thread.

    Here is a short instruction how to equalize those colours of a certain room - using the Convolution Reverbs of the SUITE EFFECTs of VSL...

    http://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/vi-tips--tricks-4/index.php (No. 36.)

    All the best

    Beat

    - Tips & Tricks while using Samples of VSL.. see at: https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/ - Tutorial "Mixing an Orchestra": https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/mixing-an-orchestra/
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    Thank you Beat! Very good article. It's interesting because right before I read your post I decided to do an EQ-Match on the piece I posted earlier. I basically matched the EQ with an orchestral piece I like. I was amazed at the difference! Here it is now with the EQ matched:

    Eastern Dream (Matched EQ) mp3.

    I can def hear a difference. The matched one sounds cleaner and less muddy for sure.

    I also used CurveEQ.
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    I can certainly hear a difference as well on your example Beat.