Thank you very much Saxer...do you have any demos of your music where i can listen to your setup?

I would especially like to hear some divisi parts played with the technique you described, using polyphonic legato ans sus patches to mimic a divisi line.

all the best!

-mike

@Saxer said:

i also use dimension strings most of the time. i have two tracks for each section for long and short notes (exept basses) so it makes 18 tracks for strings.

if you want the appassionata sound and only five tracks in your daw i wouldn't care about numbers of players. sample world is different. for me it never sounds like the orchestra is suddenly doubled when playing chords in a single section. the vienna instrument (pro) is very flexible. you can have legato articulations and play polyphonic at the same time. so if you write divisi just play two or more notes in a section.

the missing second violins is a part of vsl that i don't like. you can do the transpose trick (transpose the whole violin section down a whole step and tune them up by pitch bend again - which can be pre programmed inside VIP) and use them as second violins. so you don't use the same samples when all violins are playing unison. that way you avoid phasing problems (which are also there when using mir).

for my taste the apassionatas sound good but i'm missing some 'imperfection'. everything is 'creamy' but not 'woody'. if that makes sense at all 😊 but they are definitely a good contrast to lass.

@mikeheels said:

...do you have any demos of your music where i can listen to your setup?

I would especially like to hear some divisi parts played with the technique you described, using polyphonic legato ans sus patches to mimic a divisi line.

here is a little track where i used apassionata strings 4-part divisi violins just by playing polyphonic. starting at about 1:25 

https://soundcloud.com/saxer/marilyn

Hi Mike,

two examples here (Wagner & Mozart) employ DS violins combined with Orchestral & Solo Strings (Wagner) and Chamber Strings (Mozart), I thought they could be of interest to you...

thank you very much Goran and Saxer for your tips and links, very nice and very useful indeed!

I just bought Appassionata 1 Full library and will start experimenting with it as soon as it's shipped to me.

thank you again!

all the best!

-mike

Something to be aware of: In the Appassionata Strings library, I find that the strong vibrato patches (e.g. "VI-20_sus_Vib-strong") produce a much more lush sound than the regular sustain patches.

thanks for the info John!

regards

mike

I use Chamber Strings (Standard), i like them the most (but I dont have tried Dimension Strings yet ;)

Here is a Example, a Attempt making a big sound using Chamber Strings and Apassionata Strings Sustain Patch, that comes with the Special Edition

https://soundcloud.com/mw-design/a-new-day-432hz

regards

Markus

thank you Markus!

@mikeheels said:

I also noticed that there is no Violins1/Violins2 distinction

It's not well documented, but the Appassionata violins does come with a small selection of "Violins 2" patches. 

These have the same numbering as the normal violin patches, but with the letter "B" at the end, and they include patches for staccato, detache, sus_Vib, sfz, tremolo, and pizz.

@mikeheels said:

I also noticed that there is no Violins1/Violins2 distinction

It's not well documented, but the Appassionata violins does come with a small selection of "Violins 2" patches. 

These have the same numbering as the normal violin patches, but with the letter "B" at the end, and they include patches for staccato, detache, sus_Vib, sfz, tremolo, and pizz.

Thank you John! in fact I didn't know that...

Do you Appassionaa users all have MirX and use it with It? does it work well combined with Appassionata?