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  • Vienna Choir Techniques - First Attempt

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    I've recorded a piece for chorus using VSL Vienna Choir. This is my first attempt at using these samples, and any constructive feedback would be greatly appreciated!

    I don't have the complete choir, only the samples licensed with SE Complete. So I'm sure there could be significant improvements, but any insight as to what parameters could be manipulated to improve the sound, etc. would be valuable!

    The piece I chose to record is "The Immovable Do" by Percy Grainger:



    Thanks!

    Michael


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    @mjmyers60 said:

    This is my first attempt at using these samples, and any constructive feedback would be greatly appreciated!  

    I don't have the complete choir, only the samples licensed with SE Complete.  So I'm sure there could be significant improvements...

    Thanks!

    Michael

    Hi Michael

    A first big job ist done. Congratulation for reaching this level!

    ...It seems that you are at the beginning of a sample career. In this first part most of us see producing music with samples mainly from the techical side - of course because there are so many technical problems to solve. I am "an old (sample-)hand". Most technical problems are solved therefore I see results - yours - more from the musical side. So take my hints how ever you want:

    Specially in connection with the human voice you should simulate times (pauses) for breathing as well. Further: Music for choires comes often with certain musical bows. You can sing those bows until you need to get your breath back... ("Atem holen" in German). So what can you do?

    A) Forget for a whyle all the samples and adjust in a first process the tempo. Sing the lines and vary the tempo so that you are able to breath and that you are well up with the melody. Soon you will have dramatic tempo differences within the piece - specially whyle the choir is taking breath. As I can see you are using a score-program for producing the music. This process of completely free tempo movements is probably better to treat in a DAW - don't know.

    B) As a second step you could use the X-Velosity function (24a-c). If you already used it use it more pronounced. If not: It makes you able to draw a volume curve for each voice. Here as well: I unfortunately don't know whether this is easy to handle in your score program.

    For getting an idea how the choir could sound after such a treatment: Dorma Bain (youtube ) 0:37 - 1:33
     - observe the tempo and the choir's volume.

    BTW: I've done the same variations also with the rest of the orchestra.

    Have fun and a lot of success and Happy Music!

    Beat


    - Tips & Tricks while using Samples of VSL.. see at: https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/ - Tutorial "Mixing an Orchestra": https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/mixing-an-orchestra/