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Hi,
I'm sure this isn't the first time someone asks this, but i searched and couldn't find it.
How can i make a matrixcell change in VI pro via Sibelius notation changes?
example, the default patch in VI pro is legato flute, in the 2nd matric cell is the staccato flute loaded.
If i write stacc notes (dotted, not written) how can i make sibelius change the matrix cell to stacc?
normally via keyswitches or controller, but i cant find it in sibelius.
thank you for your help.
Geert.
Have you installed the VSL Sound Sets? Are you loadiong the instruemnts that go with these soundsets?
You'll find the installation file in the MyVSL section (Notation Related).
There's a VSL video on how you work with Sibelius and VSL -- it goes a little fast, so you will need to use the pause button while watching the video. Basically you need a mechanism for translating notational expressions, such as "arco" or "detache", into commands to VI Pro. This is done through a "soundset" which you download from the VSL website and install. Once that is done, you then install the VSL command translation into a given score by means of importing a "house style" into Sibelius for a given score you are working on -- these are just the translation rules for the commands that should go to VI Pro. There is a detailed discussion of this in VSL documentation that you can find on the VSL website.
I too have followed both the "Optimising...manual", and the YouTube video to the letter, by installing the Sibelius Soundset, starting a new score using the Vienna House Style, and even using just one instance of Tenor Trombone Standard in Vienna Ensemble.
I get zero response to any articulations. It will constantly play back the last selected cell, ad infinitum.
I have tried inputting Cmd-T commands, with controller information and keyswitches, with very limited results. 25% accurate, at best. This is after 3 long days of trying to get this working.
I employ the Vienna Ensemble, using one instance of Standard Tenor Trombone from VE Woodwinds and Brass.(Manual Sound Set). In the first bar, I input the very high note to select the metrix with the very many cells, but the active cells do not change with the various articulations and dynamics placed in the score.
Has any other user been faced with this brick wall, and simply just given up on these products for notation purposes?
I find that they are equally unpredictable for playing live. Perhaps they can be better tamed in a sequencing programme?
Are these instruments primarily for orchestral mockups, rather than as a partner for notation programmes?
I have invested enough money in a very few products from this library, and would appreciate some effective advice, before I cut my losses, and uninstall these instruments.
Perhaps somebody can post a short working Sibelius 7.5 file, that I can examine.
Pardon my frustration.
I have located a very helpful post on this topic, on page 5.
"Brass Matrices...Sibelius".
It directs the user to the appropriate Presets for Sibelius use.
They are much deeper in the folder structure than anticipated.
In my case:
PRESETS/Sibelius/Woodwinds+Brass 2.1/Single Instruments/Single Instruments Standard/D78.
Phew! Progress at last.
mots:
Sounds like you solved your problem. Good.
Just remember there are several things to set up to get it all working: Importing the VSL "house style" (which contains the dictionary for translating Sibelius notation commands to VIPro-speak, plus special INSTRUMENT STAVES that must be used for the commands to work which you must use when setting up the score, not any will do), the proper Preset under "Sibelius" to the right in the VI Pro player (which you have discovered), setting up the proper CHANNELS in the mixer of VEPro, using AUTO in the mixer in the Sibelius program itself to sync-up the channels that are assigned to each staff in Sibelius (and thence to the mixer channels in VEPro), chosing the proper INSTRUMENT in VEPro for each channel using the Manual setup of the Sibelius play options. I think that's everything. Once you get something that works, be sure to separately SAVE it in the play options (separate from saving the score itself under File-Save). Any change to you play arrangement must be separately saved each time.
Another feature of VI Pro I only recently discovered: one of the faders in VI Pro is "Dyanmic Range Scaler"; this can be very powerful in separating whisper soft pianissimo from mezzo-forte, for example. You can place commands for each staff on the score, with the format "~CXX,YY" (note, "C", not "CC", where XX in the CC number, 30 in the case of Dynamic scaler, and YY is the value of the controller), such that in passages where greater dynamic range is required, you can increase the CC30 value. You will be surprised how the dynamic notation springs to life once you increase the CC30 value. For quite a while I had mine set at 63, and wondered why my work lacked much dynamic range, notation to the contrary. Similarly, for C7, which, along with C30, you can use like a conductor to change the relative loudness of players during playing. One other point worth mentioning: the mixer in Sibelius sets the default volume level to 100, not 127. I set it to 127, along with the final output in the VEPro mixer, using VEPro limiters and individual volume levels for channels to set my mix. It you don't notice the Sibelius mixer levels, you outputs will sound too quiet.
As I guess you've already found out, the VSL instruments along with Sibelius are quite amazing; I am especially liking the Dimension Strings, which allow you, on one staff, to have solo, divisi and all instruments together playing, creating great dynamic possibilities. Rather surprisingly some important articulations found in Dimension Strings are Not found in Solo Strings, Sul G, as an example.
You also have a great resource in this forum, which is pretty free flowing in commentary, and a very responsive VSL technical support for special problems. Check the forums first, since chances are your issue has already been addressed.
Steve
> PRESETS/Sibelius/Woodwinds+Brass 2.1/Single Instruments/Single Instruments Standard/D78.
You can modify (simplify) the folder structure to suit your needs.
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