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  • civilization 3C
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    @Oguz Sehiralti said:

    the VE connection to the "instrument" slot of a software instrument track in Logic, as opposed to running the standalone version.


    For maximum clarity, VE is a multimbral instrument as a plugin, to any DAW host. The audio comes back as instrument channels, that is how the DAW relates to it.

    However if you ever do VE Pro as audio input, it is now an external device and printing its result offline doesn't happen, it's realtime or nothing.

    Standalone, that is something other than a plugin and it does not use the LAN to talk to other modules. The model for 'standalone' is really Gigastudio which got MIDI into it from, and audio back out of it to, the sequencer by external means. Cf., Kontakt used as a live instrument connected to controllers and audio out to amplifiers. I don't know why someone would connect a DAW to a standalone VE, don't need to know, don't care.
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    @civilization 3 said:

     I don't know why someone would connect a DAW to a standalone VE, don't need to know, don't care.

    Instrument are sharing memory

    Less CPU load
  • civilization 3C
    civilization 3C

    "don't care."

    Ok, as to IAC. First, @ Oguz, the reason you do not need Soundflower is that VE Pro is already getting audio back to Logic, whether through gigabit ethernet or local host. Typically using IAC, one does not have this going on.

    Cyril: You believe it's more efficient to send MIDI through ports in IAC to VE Pro than through VE Pro.
    How, why? So far you seem to have asserted that through being internal to the OS it is. That doesn't show me. I can equally find someone saying that IAC isn't priority to the OS like VE Pro.

    IAC would be a thing for a Logic person as you get additional MIDI ports through it rather than this Event Input kludge. I hadn't given it any thought but given that, I think if I was using Logic for VE Pro I would be doing IAC to some extent.

  • Cyril BlancC
    Cyril BlancC

    Civilisation,

    Having click and pop with Event input I have try IAC, no more problems, less CPU load

    VSL have agree that IAC is more powerfull exempt you cannot bounce in backgroud
  • civilization 3C
    civilization 3C

    It's not hard to believe it's better than Event Input. However I don't need Event Input, I'm using it as VST 3.
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    @Another User said:

    Having click and pop with Event input I have try IAC, no more problems, less CPU load

    VSL have agree that IAC is more powerfull exempt you cannot bounce in backgroud

    Does VE pro have the option to use IAC as an input even when VE pro is used as a plugin in Logic? If so, that might be another difference between VE and VE pro.
  • civilization 3C
    civilization 3C

    To your last question, yes.



    This shows how to do it. You're replacing the output with IAC Bus. It's easier than this in Cubase, it was just a matter of enabling IAC and it appeared as a choice in MIDI output and then enabling it in VE Pro, after a restart it appears in the ports assignment.

    VE Not-Pro - edit: *SERVICE*, what you connect to as plugin - apparently has no option for external MIDI so IAC isn't possible. Yes, that is a difference.
    Note: it's the getting audio back to the DAW that has me caring not at all about its (standalone's) performance, here is too many moving parts to even remotely consider. Since I believe VE Pro does what it says on the tin in the first place.
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    @civilization 3 said:

    To your last question, yes.



    This shows how to do it. You're replacing the output with IAC Bus. It's easier than this in Cubase, it was just a matter of enabling IAC and it appeared as a choice in MIDI output and then enabling it in VE Pro, after a restart it appears in the ports assignment.

    VE Not-Pro - edit: *SERVICE*, what you connect to as plugin - apparently has no option for external MIDI so IAC isn't possible. Yes, that is a difference.
    Note: it's the getting audio back to the DAW that has me caring not at all about its (standalone's) performance, here is too many moving parts to even remotely consider. Since I believe VE Pro does what it says on the tin in the first place.

    IAC is working very well betwen  Logic use the tutorial I have made  http://www.cyrilblanc.fr/VSL/tutorial.zip
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    @Cyril said:

    IAC is working very well betwen  Logic use the tutorial I have made  http://www.cyrilblanc.fr/VSL/tutorial.zip

    Thanks! I will check it out.
  • Cyril BlancC
    Cyril BlancC

    This tutorial show all the possibilities of connection from Logic to VSL

    • Event input
    • IAC input
    • Audio input
    output in Logic