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    S
    S
    Hi, Is there a way to adjust the pitch bend parameter so that it can change more than +or- 200 cents? If not, is there another way to create glissandi of wider intervals? thanks. -S
  • C
    C

    Which instrument are you referring too?  Most instruments that can do a glissando were recorded with glissando articulations, if I remember correctly.  At least the French Horn, clarinet, and strings were.
  • S
    S
    Thanks. Specifically, strings and trombone. Do you mean the portamento function? That's all I've found and isn't what I'm really looking for. I mean to be able to control the time and interval of a glissando, so that say in three beats a trombone will have a steady, slow gliss down a tritone, or something like that. Is what you're referring to part of some special extended library? Thanks!
  • M
    M

    The extended library from Brass I, or the tenor trombone single instrument contains perf_gliss. If you have VI Pro you can apply the Stretch function to these patches to get a glissando at any length you wish.

    Using pich-bend to mimic a t-bone slide would make the VSL-Samples sound like 80s midi ...
  • B
    B
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    @sebcurrier said:

    I mean to be able to control the time and interval of a glissando, so that say in three beats a trombone will have a steady, slow gliss down a tritone

    I have been unable to get that amount of control out of glissando patches using time-stretch, so I turn to pitch-processing software in my DAW for it.
  • C
    C

    I always have an up-to-date version of Melodyne installed on my computer for these types of things where I want to be able to control speed and pitch slide.  I definitely recommend it, even the cheaper two versions of Melodyne allow you to take a portamento sample and extend the region where the portamento occurs.  I can't really think of any libraries that DO let you control the length of a slide to that extent.
  • M
    M

    Sample Modelling's Trombone lets you do so.
  • S
    S
    thanks. will check that out.
  • C
    C

    I still don't think you can get a realistic slide over a few seconds with it.  I own other SM instruments and I know that on those there's also a limit to just how far you can stretch the duration of a slide.
  • civilization 3C
    civilization 3C

    Why not? In fact, The Trombone's manual says to use pitch bend for the slide*. I'm about to use it for the first time presently; but my experience with the tenor sax, and having studied other people's MIDI which is more elaborate than my own, where pitch bend is a big feature of crafting a performance, I would say that their instruments are made to take to MIDI pitch bend as straight samples like VSL are not.

    * pitch bending yielding perfectly realistic slide effects within the interval of augmented fourth (+/- 3 semitones), corresponding to the full stroke of the
    real trombone slide
  • civilization 3C
    civilization 3C

    Portamento, I reckon '127' as a value is typically not going to be terribly long.
  • M
    M

    The Trombone works "slidely" different from the other SM Instruments: Pitchbend is set to +/- 3 Semitones, so you can play slides up to a tritone, which is exactly the span from position I to VII. When applying pitch bend, there is some advanced form of crossfading, so that when you slide from c to e you actually hear the e sample (and all the semitones between) at the end of your slide, instead of a transposed c-sample. Of course you can move the pitch-wheel as slow as you want.