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  • MirX Mode and Dimension Low Brass

    F
    F

    I noticed that the Dimension Low Brass individual instruments profiles (P1,P2...) have no positioning. But the LB All profile has it.

    Don't think this is a volontary omission.
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD

    That's by design indeed. Herb's intention is to present Dimension Low Brass as "one package", or as an ensemble rather than as combination of solo instruments.

    HTH,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • F
    F

    I understand.

    That's what I first thought. But the individual profiles exist so that makes me doubt.
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD

    The individual Profiles are MIR Pro only. MIRx was (is) meant to be used under different basic assumptions. ;-)

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • J
    J

    In terms of realism, wouldn't this be equivalent to having only one MIRx position for all the DS double basses? I'm not sure I understand the rationale.
  • B
    B
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    @johnstaf said:

    In terms of realism, wouldn't this be equivalent to having only one MIRx position for all the DS double basses? I'm not sure I understand the rationale.

    They're not assigned a single position. Each is assigned a practically random position, the same way as positions are assigned when MIRx mode is disabled. There appears to be no MIRx data for these instrument profiles. I'm sure I don't understand how that fulfills Herb's "one package" or "ensemble" intention.
  • J
    J

    Fair enough, bad wording on my part. In the other Dimension instruments, they sound better when each instrument is assigned to its own spot, as opposed to being spread out together in a single instance of VI.

  • J
    J

    Come to think of it, this approach does make sense in a way. We already have four positions for the trombones, but they're not the trombones recorded in the Low Brass group.

    In the LB group, the timbre of each instrument is enough to make it distinct (except that we have two trombones), so sharing a group preset probably doesn't make too much difference. In the case of something like eight violins, however, the extra spatial separation opens up the sound of a fairly homogeneous group.

    Another thing, I suppose, is that MIRx has to accommodate so many libraries that fixed positions on the stage are probably scarce, and the LB group is for fairly idiomatic writing.
  • N
    N

    This actually brings up a point I've been wanting to confirm for a while:  Are the instruments in the Dimension Low Brass group unique recordings for Dimension Brass, or are the samples borrowed from another existing VSL Library?  Or, as another way of phrasing it, is the Dimension Brass Tuba a different player than the player who recorded the BBb or F tube in the original Brass I/II library?
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD
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    @slaroussels said:

    [...] is the Dimension Brass Tuba a different player than the player who recorded the BBb or F tube in the original Brass I/II library?

    I will have to ask if it was the same _player_ (I don't think so), but all Dimension Brasses are unique recordings, completely different from any other Vienna Instrument, that's for sure. 😊

    -> http://www.vsl.co.at/en/211/442/412/1943/1597.htm

    Kind regards,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • N
    N

    Great, I'm glad to know for sure.  As a former tubist, I certainly appreciate the wealth of low brass options spread across all the VSL brass libraries.   I've been debating whether to ask if there will ever be an Epic Trombone library to complement the Epic Horns and Fanfare Trumpets.  In some respects it seems unnecessary given the vast array of trombones already available, but in other ways it would make sense since those libraries seem designed around a certain style of playing that complement each other.