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  • Percussion, drum, and cymbal instrument presets in MIRx

    R
    R

    Would anyone know if the percussion, drum, and cymbal instrument presets in MIRx are available with special edition 1? I have downloaded the MIRx demo, however the drum, percussion, and cymbal Vipro presets only show the general purpose presets as available. The manual shows MIRx presets for snares, cymbals, etc
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD

    Special Edition comes with some mixed percussions-patches. In these cases, a dedicated, instrument-specific profile can't be detected automatically, for obvious reasons. The General Purpose Profiles were created with exactly this application in mind.

    BTW - a side-note to other possible readers of this thread: Using MIRx Mode in MIR Pro it would be possible to assign different Instrument Profiles manually. Thus, the user could decide to use only snare drums or taikos from the mixed patch and act accordingly. 

    Kind regards,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • R
    R

    Thanks Dietz. I thought that would be the case, but wanted to make sure.
  • JT3_JonJ
    JT3_JonJ

    WOW! This is a real shame, as percussion are some of the hardest VSL instruments to place in a hall. I would imagine VSL have specific MirX profiles for the full percussion library, correct? For example, if you load the full percussion snare, I would imagine you have a MirX profile for Snare. I understand that since all the drums in SE are on a single patch this is not automatically being recognized by MirX, but why cant we still have those individual MirX profiles available just like how the general purpose are available? 
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD

    I just talked to MIR Pro's main software developer, and I'm sorry to say that there's no straight-forward way to implement the feature you're asking for. After all, MIRx is meant to make it as simple as possible. For a full-featured software product there's always MIR Pro! ;-)

    Thanks for your understanding,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • JT3_JonJ
    JT3_JonJ

    I would think that in a worse case scenereo you could seperate out the "Drums" patch in SE into individual patches  for each drum (i.e. patch for snare, sepereate patch for bass drum, etc) which really shouldn't be a huge issue since its just a matter of removing the extra drums for each patch and saving them as new patches (not programming anything new) and then MirX would recognize the individual drum and load its associated profile automatically like all other VSL patches. This should be possible, correct? You could even hide these patches in the "resources" folder if you dont want them cluttering up the current patch list. 

    As for Mir Pro, I would love to one day own it, but unfortunately cannot afford it at this moment, which is why I'm interested in the MirX system and hopefully one day upgrade (though I cannot seem to find any upgrade paths on your website?) 

    I appreciate you looking into this situation further. I know its not the most important issue to fix, but its still a limitation that hopefully can be addressed, and VSL seems to thrive on taking that extra step to make truly flawless products so hopefully this can be fixed. Thanks again for all that you guys do at VSL!
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    VSL Team
    DietzD
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    @JT3_Jon said:

    I would think that in a worse case scenereo you could seperate out the "Drums" patch in SE into individual patches  for each drum (i.e. patch for snare, sepereate patch for bass drum, etc) which really shouldn't be a huge issue since its just a matter of removing the extra drums for each patch and saving them as new patches (not programming anything new) and then MirX would recognize the individual drum and load its associated profile automatically like all other VSL patches. This should be possible, correct? [...]

    That is easier said than done. These patches are made up from monolithic data blocks, so it's not an easy task to "remove a sample" from a patch.

    Like I wrote before: I understand that it would be highly desirable to have all possibilities of the full-featured products in the cost-efficient, easy-to-use ones, too --- but then, MIRx and Special Edition couldn't be cost-efficient and easy-to-use any longer. 8-) Thanks for your understanding.

    Kind regards,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    JT3_JonJ
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    @Another User said:

    I understand that it would be highly desirable to have all possibilities of the full-featured products in the cost-efficient, easy-to-use ones, too --- but then, MIRx and Special Edition couldn't be cost-efficient and easy-to-use any longer....Thanks for your understanding

    Its not a matter of having all the possibilities of the full-featured products, its about making the SE percussion have the same abilities in MirX as the rest of Special Edition! Its making it so the SE Bass Drum, Snare, etc have the exact same abilities of individual instrument placement in MirX as the SE Timpani.  So no, I dont understand but I of course trust and respect the VSL team and their wishes, and will accept it and value the product given its limitations. Perhaps I'll do as suggested and skip MirX entierly and hope to one day use Mir Pro.