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  • Good way to switch between Key-Velocity and Velocity Xfades?

    Hi,

    what would you suggest is a good way to switch between Key-Velocity and Velocity-Xfade?

    So far I have used Logic's HyperDraw area in the PianoRoll drawing in CC28 data (values 64 - 127 for Xfade "on" and values 0 - 63 for "off"). But that does not only seem a bit complicated to me, it is also confusing when changing the view of the HyperDraw area to CC2 for the Velocity Xfades, because I don't see anymore where Velocity Xfade is on and where not.

    Is there an easier way to draw those switches in?

    Oh, I forgot: I don't use VE, I use only VI (Pro) - if that matters.

    A Happy New Year to everybody!!!

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    VI Pro 2.4.12711; Logic 9.1.8


  • The first thing to do is switch it on and of on a patch by patch basis. This will mean that most of the time there is no reason to worry about switching it on and off globally.

    However, I have certain patches where I sometimes want it on, and sometimes off. For this I just use a CC, as you do. Part of your problem is a Logic problem, so you will need to talk to other people about that.

    DG


  • Happy New Year, DG!

    Thank you for your super fast response! [I had e-mail subscription enabled, but for some stupid setting in my "Profile" it didn't work. Which is the reason why it took ME a little longer to react  :-)]

    Please, can you tell me how to do that: switching on and off "on a patch by patch basis"? I only know the "Vel.XF" box that one can check or uncheck in the "Perform" tab of the interface's "Advanced" view. And that always influences the whole Matrix.

    And: if any Logic User wants to enlighten me on the secrets of good workflow, that would be great!

    Vetio


  • You need to check the Slot Editor. There you have the option for xFade On, Off or Global for the selected patch. Leave it Global for the patches you're not sure about and set the rest the way you always use them.


  • Great, DG!

    Great tip! This will definitely change my workflow for the better! Thank you very much!

    And: if any Logic Users still want to chime in, that would be very nice.


  • Use the Ipad control app and touch the velocity crossfade slider with two fingers to switch between modes. your DAW will record this. Easiest way, before IPad app I used one or the other. slider grays out for key velocity.

    love the app


  • Hi Blogo,

    thanks a lot for your tip. I appreciate it!

    Unfortunately your tip implies that I have an iPad - which I don't. I already own an iPhone, and I'm afraid I have to say that I feel that it's a "waste of life" most of the time. And the iPad, for me, is in the same category.

    I am one of those who'd prefer to live without ALL those "machines". Maybe except for a time machine: if there were one available, I'd use it to go back to a time where one would still be in DIRECT contact with one's LITTLE (but big enough) world, could SEE and TOUCH the FEW (but enough) things that surrounded us, and TALK to people by NATURAL means (mouth to ear). And if there was music, I would make it DIRECTLY of course, and enjoy those rare moments when it sounds ... :-)

    Yeah. But since there is no time machine, and since the only world there is, is the one I'm living in, with its millions of gadgets and ideas that make my life "easier", I suppose I'm gonna get me also an iPad one day - which will make my life even easier.  :-)

    But, Blogo, seriously: I do appreciate your answer - thank you!


  • After reading again through my last post, I get the feeling that it sounds pretty insolent.

    If that's the case: that was definitely not my intention!!!

    I am REALLY grateful for your answer, Blogo.


  • If it makes you feel any better, mines just a mini.  Having used the app for sometime now, it's worth the 300 bucks even for the mini to use the vienna app. More precise than midi pedals and sliders with visual feedback, all at your fingertips. Go from no vibr. to vibr with a gentle slide.  If you wish to experience the best way to switch without using a machine, might I suggest hiring a real orchestra and conduct it yourself. You still might need a machine or atleast a cylinder with tin foil around it and a megaphone and a needle to record your performance. :)


  • Yeah, Blogo, you're right: if that App solution works so well, getting an iPad is definitely worth a second thought.

    Thanks for your feedback!