Roompack "Silent Stage"

[LAJ]

Hey Dietz,

i would love to have a superdry room to mix Instruments in 3D. Did you ever discuss recording the Silent Stage?

who else is interested?

BR Lars

[Dietz]

Hi Lars,

Well - that's an interesing request, and I understand what you're after. Actually it _could_ be useful when using MIR Pro with other instruments than VSL's own Vienna Instruments. But as you know, the latter were recorded in the Silent Stage, that's why I think that it wouldn't make much sense to double the hall's acoustic impact on the recordings. - BTW: Silent Stage is anything else than "superdry". Lots of early reflections are happening there - just no "reverb" in the actual sense of the word. :-)

Right now, you could use ORF Studio 2 for a big room with very little reverb. This will give you ample of space to position your soundsources even in considerable distances to your Main Microphone, while still giving you the impression of a "dry" environment. You could also experiment with Teldex Studio Berlin, reducing the reverb time to less than 500 ms while changing the global Dry / Wet Ratio to something like 50%.

HTH,

[Dietz]

Oh ... and to actually answer your question: We have no plans at the moment to release the SilentStage as MIR Venue, but never say never! :-)

Kind regards,

[Casiquire]

That IS a very interesting request!  I think the idea is more to be able to use MIR as a positioner without reverb.  Can't we sort of do that already by clicking "dry" instead of "wet" output from MIR?

[LAJ]

I Love Studio 2 and i use it a lot, but I would like to have some room which is veeeerrry dry. But Dietz you are right. When i say dry i mean Zero reverb [:)] Other reflections make the roomsound then.

And yes Casi ... I want to use it as a positioner.

I think it makes a Difference if you use a real dry room or just turn the virtual knobs to Zero. The early reflections are a good example because they make it Sound real. 

I suggested the Silent Stage because of 2 reasons. 

1. the costs are low

2. and it has "Cult-Charakter" for us users.

So it would be a product that works ... and maybe you could give it 4free to new Customers who buy MIR without any Roompacks. So a lot of reasons [;)]

but finaly it is not a "Must have" ... Studio 2 is dry as well.

[Dietz]

:-)

Lots of great ideas here, thanks a lot. Rest assured that one or the other has already crossed our minds before. ;-) Let's see what we can come up with in the future.

Thanks for your patience!

Kind regards,

[doubleattack]

Since I have to deal with dry recorded audio material side by side on the VSL library inside MIR: Even a single impulse from the silent stage (maybe for the VSL Convolution Rev, Hybrid Rev would be sometimes  v e r y  useful! 

But not only for this reason: Such a "Silent Stage Impulse" would be useful for balancing the difference of space in the sample recordings itself; naturally the short articulation or specially the pre-recorded phrases of scale runs have more room-information than other samples of the same instrument.

In advance of a impulse from the silent stage we could balance it before sending the signal into MIR, without masking this different with a different MIR venue.  I could suggest it would be helpful to make a mixing-result even more better, for shure for a more dry setup. Theoretically...[;)]

Frank

[LAJ]

Hello everybody who is interested in this topic.

in a german Forum I found a interesting alternative for "dry" positioning with reflections from a firm called parallax-audio.

Dietz, it could be interesting for you to read, that other People are looking for dry positioning too. 

http://www.logicuser.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=62196

Greetings Lars