Hi all,
I have been setting up my template in Cubase with VEP. I've purchase the Software Package, so I have MIR and Vienna Suite included. I've read a few posts with similar question, however none has answered my question to this, hopefully this post will help me out. My concern is using MIR with an additional Reverb.
I will pin down my setup to one section, strings, taking Dimension Violins into consideration. For simplicity let's presume I only have one instrument, either Vln 1, or all 8 Violins bundled into one group. I'll name this "DS_Out". I have inserted MIR, making DS_Out sit nicely in the Teldex Studio. I have often read that adding MIRacle is a good way for adding an extra reverb after MIR. But seeing that I've purchased Vienna Suite, which includes Hybrid Reverb, I'd like to use this as it includes more options (especially Early & Tail settings). I don't have FORTI/SERTI.
My idea for my setup was ('biggest' first):
- 1 master output, the usual "MASTER"
- 1 stem output for every section (strings, brass, etc.) that includes EVERYTHING of that type of section: "STRINGS", which has output assigned to MASTER
- ???
- 1 DS_Out
The ??? is my concern, having to place a reverb after MIR and before the section end. I have reduced the MIR reverb time to about half its original length, as described in the MIR manual (which I've been looking through quite a lot recently). I have been on Beat Kaufmann's website and have found out that it is good practice to have the separate sections with an Early reverb on them, and the final master output with the Tail reverb. MIR complicates this matter a bit, because it already has these two included. I would still however like to add the extra reverb at the ??? section, because MIR alone is not as lush and detailed as I'd like it to be.
For DS_Out I was thinking: I would add MIR as an effect, send the MIR wet signal via its fader to an extra bus "STRINGS_MIR+reverb" and add a hybrid reverb there (Early only, no tail). Below MIR I would add a pre fader that sends (the dry positioned signal of MIR) to a different bus "STRINGS_DRY+reverb", which also has an additional hybrid reverb (Early only, no tail, dry muted). The main output of DS_Out would be assigned to the section STRINGS. STRINGS itself has no effects loaded, simply going into MASTER. MASTER has a hybrid reverb with tail only.
Thus my setup would look like the following:
- 1 master output, the usual "MASTER"
- 1 stem output for every section (strings, brass, etc.) "STRINGS", which has output assigned to MASTER
- 1 "STRINGS_MIR+reverb", output to STRINGS
- 1 "STRINGS_DRY+reverb", output to STRINGS
- 1 DS_Out, MIR signal to STRINGS_MIR+reverb, dry positioned to STRINGS_DRY+reverb, normal output to STRINGS
Does this setup make sense? Is it redundant to add an extra early reflection to the dry and the MIR wet signal individually? Did I understand the pre-faders of MIR and the extra send correctly? Should I rather only have one extra bus inbetween? Should I rather have a tail and no early reflection inbetween? What would be an efficient way of setting this reverb? Many questions, but I'd like to fix my template somewhat and hopefully others can reflect to this as well.
Thanks a lot in advance!
Cheers