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  • Troubles with notes' beginning

    Hi everyone, Just acquired the VS Library and was quite excited about it until I start playing the instruments, When I play a note, it begins with a slight glissando reaching to the note, which is very frustrating. For example when I hit the note C, the sound will start from down to reach it, between B and C.. dunno if I'm being clear. Is there a way to cut this notes' beginning so that the exact note is played from the start ? Thanks a lot guys !

  • Hi Reta,

    without any information with which product, instrument and articulation your are working it's impossible to give you any advises.

    best

    Herb 


  • Hi, Well, it's the VS Pro Performance Library, and it's doing this on all instruments on legato articulations, regards, R

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    Hi Reta,

    I checked and didn´t find any registered products on your account.

    The best idea is to contact us at with the serial numbers you find in your boxes, or the email your products are registered to.

    Alternatively, you can also go ahead and register your legacy products to your account right away here.

    Best,

    Paul


    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
  • I've noticed this on SE legato patches. For example if on a solo violin legato patch, if on my keyboard I play a C4 and hold the note down even after it stops sounding and then I play a G4 while still holding down the C4, it will actually very quickly play a C4 and then the G4. It sounds almost like a trill.

    I've actually been testing this out over the past few days, and was planning on doing a bit more testing before I asked VSL about it. (I'm not using the most current version of VE.) But so far I can reproduce it when ever a legato note is played, the sample stops playing but a note off is not sent for the original note and then I play a new note.

    What kind of midi controller are you using? I ask because I usually play midi guitars and set them to "sustain." That is when a note is played on a string or a zone, a note off message won't be sent untill a new note is played. That's when I've noticed it the most, but it has happened to me sometimes when having pieces played back from my notation software as well.

    I'll post more detaills after I can do more testing.


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    @mschmitt said:

    I've noticed this on SE legato patches. For example if on a solo violin legato patch, if on my keyboard I play a C4 and hold the note down even after it stops sounding and then I play a G4 while still holding down the C4, it will actually very quickly play a C4 and then the G4. It sounds almost like a trill.

    No need for more testing. What you're describing is normal behaviour. What you're hearing is the first note playing its full length (it is not looped) so naturally there is no sound when the recorded material finishes. When you play the second note, you hear the transition material (which sounds like  a grace note) and then the destination note. To avoid this, you need to re-trigger the first note, much like a violinist would change bow.

    DG


  •  Most probably Reta is working with an eleven years old Performance Set (Gigastudio or EXS version) and does not have any software (Performace Tool) to use the legato patches as intended.

    best

    Herb


  • Very unusual considering that he joined just 6 days ago. I thought old version werent available for purchase anymore on this site.

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    @mschmitt said:

    I've noticed this on SE legato patches. For example if on a solo violin legato patch, if on my keyboard I play a C4 and hold the note down even after it stops sounding and then I play a G4 while still holding down the C4, it will actually very quickly play a C4 and then the G4. It sounds almost like a trill.

    No need for more testing. What you're describing is normal behaviour. What you're hearing is the first note playing its full length (it is not looped) so naturally there is no sound when the recorded material finishes. When you play the second note, you hear the transition material (which sounds like  a grace note) and then the destination note. To avoid this, you need to re-trigger the first note, much like a violinist would change bow.

    DG

    Thanks DG. Is there some "useful" reason reason why the patches are set up this way that I'm missing out on?

    It's actually caused me a lot of issues. When playing on my keyboard and I let a note play to the end, pause then strike a new note, it happens and is very jarring. It also happens sometimes when slowing down the tempo of sequences, or when using various programs I've written in MAX.

    I was able to write a little program in MAX that fixes it. Whenever a legato note is played, it sends out a note off message for that note right before the sample ends. Then I can pause, play a different note and it sounds without the "grace note"! Could VSL implement somthing similiar in their software?

    Michael


  • If you don't want to hear the transition material there are two things you can do:

    1. Leave a small gap between notes. This triggers a new start note
    2. Switch to a sustain patch in order to force a new start note.

    DG