Switch from performance legato to legato repetition articulations seamlessly?

[jpschwinghamer]

Howdy everyone!

I'm right on the verge of purchasing my first VSL product. I have a general technique question. Is it possible to effectively play a legato line that has repeated notes? For example,

If I wanted to play the opening to the second movement of Tchaikovsky's 1st String Quartet I would play a legato line like:

Bb3 > D4 > D4 > Bb3 >Eb4 > D4

Would you start with the performance legato patch and keyswitch to the performance repetition patch between the repeated D4 notes?

Would the algorithm treat the second D4 note as the FIRST of the legato repetitions (with a strong attack and no transition)? Or would it correctly identify the second D4 as a repetition and trigger the transition and softer attack?

In a few of the Universal mode videos it seems like it was handling this automatically. Am I correct in thinking so? Are there other matrices that would allow you to play this?
Thanks for any info. Can't wait to join the VSL family.

[Paul]

Welcome jpschwinghamer [:)], 

If you repeat a note in a legato patch, you will get a dedicated repetition sample for those legato patches with a softer attack (not a new starting note). 

Best, 

Paul

[cgernaey]

I myself usually do as you said, start with a regular perf-legato and then switch to the rep-legato for the second repeated notes (and leave it there if there are more to follow).  However keep a few things in mind.  My goal is to always pick the one that sounds most realistic there.  Sometimes that means doing what Paul said and just use the perf-legato and let it repeat (you can soften the attack by raising the attack slider if needed) or additionally, you can program it to play exactly the "repitition" you were looking for.  So basically, if performance repitition legato offers 6 round robin options, you could listen to them all and say oh!!  I want number 4, and then program it to play number 4 for that note.  More work to do this, but really depends how good of results do you want, versus amount of required work.  It's a trade off.  Pick one or the other, or a balance of the two :).

Maestro2be

[jpschwinghamer]

Wow, the legato patches are more advanced than I thought! Awesome! Do I understand correctly that the legato patches have two repetitions? So if I were to want to play more than two repeated notes in a legato line, I would then want to switch to a legato repetition articulation?

Because there is an inherent delay between the keynote OFF of the first note and the keynote ON of the second note, does one have to hold down the sustain pedal between any repeated notes to ensure that they trigger the appropriate repetition transition? Or is the algorithm intelligent enough to detect the speed at which you're playing and - provided you trigger the next repetition within the appropriate time threshold - triggers the repetition sample without needing the sustain pedal?

Really getting excited!

JPS

[Paul]

Hi JPS, 

@Another User said:

Because there is an inherent delay between the keynote OFF of the first note and the keynote ON of the second note, does one have to hold down the sustain pedal between any repeated notes to ensure that they trigger the appropriate repetition transition?

Yes, that makes sense. Give it a try and see what you like best. 

Best, 

Paul

[glennhardy]

Hi, Did you ever get an answer to this very important question? Did you figure it out yourself? I'd be interested to know. THanks, Glenn