All desk combinations and sections are avilable as Matrix and Preset files.

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Herb

HI, 

I just did , no differance 

Still only shows 1-8 violins in the patch tab 

In the matrix tab i see the desk, groups and all violins 

To make sure I understand,

There are no desk, groups or all at the patch level ?

that means the 8 violins were not recorded as a section all together ?

 They performed together and were recorded together, but each player with an individual microphone. Therefor you can build up any possible combination out of the 8 players.

best Herb

I totally understand the concept, I just thought in addition to the individaul players patches, there was also desk , groups and all violins patches. 

Yes, you should have those (with VI Pro), and the 8 violins and 4 desks with VI.  Perhaps confirming everything in Directory Manager would help?

At the patch level there is only 8 individual violins. 

There are no recorded section such all 8 violins together, only individual players.

@mazeka said:

To make sure I understand,

There are no desk, groups or all at the patch level ?

that means the 8 violins were not recorded as a section all together ?

They are recorded as a section AND as individual players.  That is the whole concept of "Dimension" which is not just a cool logo, but a specific type of recording first used with Dimension Brass in which the slight changes in tone/expression/ timbre that happen in an ensemble are audible even though the instrument is recorded closeup, so that you mainly hear it solo. 

You would understand this instantly if you had the samples in front of you, since you hear the difference immediately.  For example, if you listen to the Dimension tuba you can hear a tiny bit of bass trombone "edge" along with the mellower tuba timbre.  That is not a problem since the tuba is supposed to be used WITH the bass trombone. 

The same thing happens less noticeably, but very subtly and beautifully with the violins.  You can hear each individual player's difference from the others in solo, but there is first of all a tiny amount of sound from the other players also audible AND the players are syncing with each other which is hugely significant.  Because unlike sticking a bunch of separate solo violins together, they actually sound like an ensemble but with individual controllability and complexity.  It is a brilliiant innovation. 

So specifically, there are not patch-level desks, but they are formed just as well by the approach of the Dimension recording by simply taking two or three or four of the players and putting them in unison (with panning and perhaps mistiming/intonation changes). 

HI, William.

Thank you for the detail explanation and comparison, eventhough I dont have the libraries you mentioned , I was simply asking if I am missing something due to user error.

The reason I was asking about the sections and desks and all violins patches is for memory reasons.

Thank you

Once you have the memory for the 8 players, then the various desks and combinations are all available since they do not have to be separately sampled.  That is the great feature of the sound of Dimension Strings since they are actually playing together though separately miked.