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      RUNNING: WIN7,I7 CUB 6.07-64 , 24 GB, RME 400,UF8

    I am getting a distinct dbling of sound with Pleg & Sustains with so far the Spec Ed fr OB, Solo Clar, with the dwnld "C" Trp library.
    At first I thought it was my keyboard but I've had a friend who betas for VSL replicate the same thing in MAC with the same results.
    I remembered the VSL Video on X-FADES using a Viola Sustain.
    With all other settings at their default and making sure my updates were up to date, I tried activating the VEL X FADE on the "Advanced" page and get the same problem ----except that with VEL XF activated the Oboe is fine until 60 on the fader and up, the Clar fine up to 90 , the Trp dbling starts at about b5 on up.
    Conversly I don't have this dbling with Solo Vln or S Cello of the other instruments I've tried this with.
    Doesn't make any difference how hard or lightly I hit the kbd with VEL XFADE on or off.
    Makes them unusable unless buried in an ensemble.
    Is there a way to fix this?

    gc
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    Velocity crossfade does not work by hitting a keyboard.  That is "Key-On" velocity.  Velocity crossfade is done with a continuous controller that you select.  So I would suggest there is some problem with your MIDI setup. 

    However, in general, velocity crossfade has always worked less effectively with solo instruments.  This is not unique to VSL, but universal among all sampled instruments.  The only way to avoid it is with sample modeling, which VSL - in its pristine, accurate representation of original recorded sound - does not do.  So if you crossfade with a CC a solo instrument (as opposed to an ensemble in which it always works very well) you may hear doubling and phasing. 

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     Thanks William, and the video I refered to is using the Ens Violas. So with Vienna Solos one would use cc11 for timbral-volume (dynamic changes,ie LASS or ADAGIO MW) and use VEL XFADES with Ensmbles, reserving cc11 with Ensems for pushing another level upwords when wanted?

    Thanks again!!

    gc
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    Yes, that will work fine but as you know dynamic samples are often needed for solo instruments if you have a large change in dynamics that will create a brighter or darker sound.  With ensemble you can just stay with crossfade, though there are dynamic samples available that are very useful for many situations, especially sforzando or repeated figures that have a diminuendo or cresc. done over and over again and are tedious to paint in with continuous controllers.  

    Also, as Herb once mentioned, using dynamic samples when they aren't particularly needed can be a key to a very natural sounding dim. on notes that are not necessarily marked dim.  Because players often do not sustain at full volume on every note, especially longer held notes.  I've noticed this is a great time saver for making natural sounding lines. 

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    William, thanks again!!

    Happy Holidays to you!!

    gc