Yeah this is very bad... 4 hours only 5% downloaded.

And unless I missed it, VSL has remained silent in this regard.

We can only hope they are addressing it quietly, behind the scenes.

If you want to be identified as a modern download company, you must deploy BIG BOY SERVERS........

Sure it would be nice to have everything faster, but I can deal with a long download time, because its still faster than getting DVDs by mail.  

The main thing is - this is the most awesome string library on the planet!  Nothing else touches this.  Now available.  I am already doing a notation file in Finale for it.  VSL has gone beyond anything else in existence... again.

Hello William,

I've bought into the instant gratification that downloads provide.  [:)]

I agree with you one hundred percent it is all about these groundbreaking samples.

The possibilities are wonderful. The layering breathtaking. And when used with older String Libs it's fresh DNA at once.

@DG said:

I've now watched the video a couple of times, and whilst I find some of the tone a little strident, I don't think that it's something I can't deal with fairly easily. I also think that it's so cheap that I should just get it anyway. In some respects it might replace Chamber Strings in my template, as that Collection is often used for layering with Appassionata (and Orchestral at times), and I think that DS will probably do a better job.

You're one of the few who know how!

Are the posted sample content " articulations" is the finale list ?

DG, regarding GOS, that was a looooooooong time ago.  I actually did like the ability to program bow changes.  Unfortunately I never had much success with the library as I was one of those individuals who had nothing but trouble trying to get ye old Giga Studio to work properly.  As for forcing bow changes, the samples were set up in two banks, mapped to two different sections of the keyboard, with down bows in one set, and the upbows in the second set.  You could program bowing however you wished.  The downside was that when doing that, the notated part ceased to correspond to actual notes as the upbows (IIRC) were typically placed three or four octaves higher on the keyboard.  The ranges of the instruments were generally not quite full range.

Overall, for the time frame that it was released, it was a major breakthrough.  IIRC, it was the first major strings samples library of its kind, and even predated VSL (I think).  It was very different from the later GPO stuff, and was sampled at a much more in-depth level, with better overall sound.  Would it compare to VSL?  No.  As it was written for Giga Studio, the library has long since become obsolete.  Even its design had become obsolete prior to Giga Studio's demise, and the library has not been supported for several years.

A couple other Dimension String questions:

Does it require the latest VI Pro/VE Pro build/MIR Pro/MIR 24?

Is it possible to get it to work under the older MIR SE?  At this point I am still on MIR SE, and it will be quite awhile before I can jump to the full MIR Pro.

Thanks.

The demos sound promising!

Here's an idea to make the section sound less thin (in theory): use the pitch/transpose trick (as described by Beat on his site) to create another 8 extra violin section. Double those with the existing 8 and you'll have 16 unique players (without phasing problems).

Or: double the 8 strings with the chamber strings. Will give you 6+8= 14 strings :D which you still could divide (albeit unevenly) in 2 or 3 divisi.

Hi noldar12, 

@Another User said:

Here's an idea to make the section sound less thin (in theory): use the pitch/transpose trick (as described by Beat on his site) to create another 8 extra violin section. Double those with the existing 8 and you'll have 16 unique players (without phasing problems).

Or: double the 8 strings with the chamber strings. Will give you 6+8= 14 strings 😄 which you still could divide (albeit unevenly) in 2 or 3 divisi.

I wouldn´t do that. Here´s a link that points in the right direction, from our perspective. 

Best, 

Paul

Hi Paul,

First of all, well done on the Dimension Strings (you must get tired of hearing that [:D]). That's an interesting approach (using alternate strings for the same passage), haven't thought of that (reading the interview right now by the way!)

Will this be available via the Vienna Hard drive?

I recently had a bit of nightmare downloading an Albion library over a weekend ... and that was only 20 Gig .... downloading 33 Gig ... and more in the future is a bit impractical for me.

VSL... Please post more Dim-Strings audio demos  ! 

Thanks,

Muziksculp 

Paul says it's not a good idea to pause and restart, as the bump in speed is minimal and temporary.

Paul also said we can expect better performance tomorrow...

Read Here:                   http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/p/33174/209125.aspx#209125

@Another User said:

Here's an idea to make the section sound less thin (in theory): use the pitch/transpose trick (as described by Beat on his site) to create another 8 extra violin section. Double those with the existing 8 and you'll have 16 unique players (without phasing problems).

Or: double the 8 strings with the chamber strings. Will give you 6+8= 14 strings 😄 which you still could divide (albeit unevenly) in 2 or 3 divisi.

I wouldn´t do that. Here´s a link that points in the right direction, from our perspective. 

Best, 

Paul

Paul, I am still confused about your comments.  I have been using VI Pro 2.0.10214 just fine in MIR SE.  Are you saying that Dimension Strings will NOT work in that particular build of VI Pro?

By the way, I do realize that I could get the free upgrade to MIR 24 from MIR SE, and purchase the latest version of VE.  At this time though, if at all possible, I would still rather keep things simple and not be switching back and forth between MIR 24 and MIR SE (when I need the larger number of instances in SE).  When I finally do upgrade, I would rather go directly to the full MIR Pro, which I cannot do at this time (hence also my curiousity about how long the "early bird" special for DS will last).

Thanks for the clarification.

Also +1 for the return of boxed products.  I much prefer boxed products for the full collections (granted, DS is not yet a completed, full collection).

+1 

As I sit here 25 hours in, at 28% downloaded.... Those already gorgeous Vienna Boxed Sets, are looking even more attractive.

The option to download with a boxed set on the way, would be nice in the future.

I was booted out by my Internet server last night, so I've given up for now. Luckily this isn't my first VSl product, or with this sort of download fiasco I doubt that there would have been a second one. [;)]

DG

Yes failed here as well, got a connection then it stopped and never started again! Perhaps 33Gb is just too large for VSL's current delivery technology.

Perhaps not the smoothest product launch?

DG,

At what point were you booted out???

I'm 31 hours in @ 34.3% downloaded. (Fingers crossed)...

To your customer service point, I couldn't imagine being some new guy on ILIO or SweetWater making this my first VSL experience.

@Errikos said:

8 violins only!! Balanced with 6 celli and 4 basses?!? I don't know how I would use this.

Why not blend it with the existing chamber violin ensemble? Sample Libraries in many ways can't possibly function the same way as a real orchestra would. In order to get the right sound, I may combine instruments- where in an actual recording this may not be necessary for the sake of realism. 8 Violins vs 4 basses may seem imbalanced, but these are tools for you to work with and you have complete control over how you mix them. If recording 10 basses acheived the right effect, then no matter how 'improper' it seems, the end result is what matters when it comes to samples. That's an extreme example, but all I'm trying to get at is that despite the numbers, the user remains in control and as long as it sounds real and in good quality, nothing else matters. And do I trust VSL to those considerations? Yup! [:)]