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  • Zigane and Portamento refuse to play after Progressive Vibrato Patch

    C
    C

    Using Solo Strings 1 Cello, if I play a "15 VC_sus_Vib-progr" patch for more than say 5 seconds in length I cannot get a Zigane or Portamento to trigger.  If I shorten the note it works fine.  So what is the problem with the patch not playing correctly if the note is held a little to let the vibrato grow?  That is obviously the point of the patch :).

    It happens on any note, any transition (3rd, 5th, 8th).

    Thanks,

    Maestro2be
  • BillB
    BillB

     Is this both with your sequencer and in standalone mode?

    Dorico, Notion, Sibelius, StudioOne, Cubase, Staffpad VE Pro, Synchon, VI, Kontakt Win11 x64, 64GB RAM, Focusrite Scarlett 18i20, August Forster 190
  • D
    D

     I can't reproduce this on any note. Are you sure that you don't have some errant controller, such as cell xFade, messing things up?

    DG
  • C
    C

    Interesting, I will test this again tonight as I am away from the studio.  However, the piece I did it in was Cubase with a new project and I do not map any controllers to any hardware/software except for velocity crossfade.  And for this piece, since it's a solo instrument I never use crossfade, i manually enter velocity for the individual notes.

    I will try this is both Studio One and in Cubase.  I haven't tried it in stand alone mode.  I will be home in 20 minutes, I will post then my findings.

    Thanks,

    Maestro2be
  • C
    C

    Ok so it does it in Cubase 6, Studio One and in Stand alone.  It does it on all 3 studio machines.  This is 100% reproducable for me.  I created brand new empty songs to test this with, that had no mappings of any sort at all.

    Start an empty song, create only one track with VI PRO 2.  Put Solo Cello Sustain Porgressive Vubrato patch in the first cell A1.  Then add Perf-Legato-Zigane in cell two A2.  Turn on key switching for X Axis.

    Now create one very long note assigned to the progressive vibrato note and then do a fourth below note for Zigane.  It will not play a slide, it will come clunking in.  Now stop the playback, change the VI PRO player back to the progressive patch by selecting it.  Now, move the marker just before the zigane note and hit play, it will play the zigane (be sure to start playback at the point where the keyswitch note changes it from sustain to zigane, mine is near the start of the zigane note).  If you move the playback head to close to the beginning of the sustain note, it will not play the zigane slide.  The key though is when you hit play it must start sounding the sustain patch, before it key switches to the zigane.  So be sure to place that keyswitch near the zigane note start time.

    Maestro2be
  • H
    H

     Hi Maestro2be,

    very long notes seems to interfer with the polyphonic legato mode logic.

    Setting the zigane "patch" to monophonic (on the advanced patch tab) should do the trick, at least it does here on a similar setup inside cubase you've described above.

    You can also set the interval mode in the "Options" tab to mono, when you don't need any polyphonic interval mode within a VI PRO instance.

    best

    Herb
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    C

     Herb,

    Thanks so much that did the trick!  I will save my templates for my solo strings and solo instruments in this fashion because I do not ever use polyphonic notes on a solo instrument.

    Thanks again, sometimes I get compulsive and cannot get passed a simple thing like this.  This one took way to much of my time haha.  :)

    Maestro2be