@jasensmith said:

In the end, arguing about performance thresholds for Macs and PC's on Internet forums is a lot like competing in the Special Olympics.  Even if you win you're still retarded.  So why bother?

That is a breath of fresh air. 

I realized there is no point whatsoever in discussing it.  Make a point, don't make a point, it is absolutely the same here.  No reason to say anything, to prove anything, it makes no difference.   This is the internet.  EVerything is equal.  All people are equal.  All ideas are equally valid.  Everyone is correct.  Young composers are the only ones worth listening to.  Bernard Herrmann should be not praised too much.  Hans Zimmer should not be criticized because everyone loves him.  Cyril has the biggest computer.   Have a nice day. 

William !

What do you want to say of somebody that compare an Personnal computer that has a I7 processor to one that has 2 x XEON (WINDOWS or MAC) !!! That he does not know what he is talking about, and this beeing VERY polite 

What do you want to say of somebody that say that SSD does not help !!! That he speak rubbish, and this beeing VERY polite 

It's like comparing a 409 Peugot with a Ferrari 

Another point, if the programmer that has program the apps does not know all the trick of the OS, the program will be unresponsive and slow.

An exemple :VSL re-wrote the loading of the samples in the MAC OS X version, now my template of 59 GB loads in 1:40 mn instead of 40 minutes  when it was 32 GB !!!

CONCLUSION OF THIS THREAD :

IF YOU LIKE YOUR WINDOW'S PC, KEEP IT

IF YOU LIKE YOUR MAC, KEEP IT

PEACE 

I'm on Cyrils side totally.

Any guy that has a description of his computer set up that is usually longer than his posts - has my backing every time!

Go Cyril!! [C]

Yes, Cyril has the biggest computer.  Therefore he is the best.

Young composer = GOOD

Old composer = BAD

I love Hans Zimmer all the time.  He is the greatest of all composers who ever lived in the universe.  Actually, he is the greatest of all who lived in the multi-dimensional brane in which this universe is situated.  He was one of the original Space-Time perturbations that existed before the galaxies were formed immediately after the Big Bang.

I will not praise Bernard Herrmann too much.   Don't worry Vibrato, I won't let it happen again and will always celebrate your celebration of Young Composers who are the only ones who should live, after all. 

I know that everyone is good and all ideas are wonderful in the new world of the internet where everybody has a chance to become great like Hans and may some day if they learn their computers like Cyril.  Thank you so much.  Have a nice day.

@Cyril said:

VSL is asking to put your configuration in your signature so they know what you have

It's a good idea actually Cyril. I could not tell you what the configuration of my system is at the moment because I've forgotten. I know I have my tech man coming over soon to update it because I can't do this kind of thing myself.

@Cyril said:

al this talking is BLA BLA BLA as we say in french

 

Well, yeah Cyril, that's the problem.  When Erik and I call Apple support all we get is "BLA BLA BLA" because the calls are going to India or the Planet Vulcan or somewhere and we can't understand a thing they're saying.  And I'm pretty sure it ain't French they're speaking.  I end up having to Google search my way out of the problem.

@jasensmith said:

Oh BTW PaulR,

I own a P2000 40 calibre.  And I'm a pretty good shot with it too. 

See - this is what makes me jealous about America. We British actually create the USA and then we're not allowed to have guns! It's ridiculous.

This is true Paul but, originally, we Americans were allowed to bare arms so that we could keep you pesky Brits out!  And the pesky French and the pesky Spanish and the pesky Vulcans too! 

Gentlemen, I must admit I've probably had one too many this evening and really shouldn't be posting on the forum.  So I'll leave you all with my favorite W.C. Fields quote,

"My wife drove me to drinking.  Now I am forever in her debt." [:P]

Take care

It's still a legal requirement to practice archery here once a week, however.

When this happend ?

This is very anoing, in France the support is in Ireland and we speak to French guys, they are VERY GOOD and VERY HELPFULL, I have spend hours with the pro support configuring my Lion server. I was one of the 1st client to install Lion server, and the documentation where not obvious and there was a few bugs. Now my Lion server is working great since !

why dont you write to Tim Cook !!!!

Do you have free phone for UK or France ? if yes call European support !!!

@Cyril said:

why dont you write to Tim Cook !!!!

Do you have his cell number? I'd love to call him! Personal e-mail then? I want to let him know how very much I think of Apple's billion-$ think-tank's latest transcedental achievements (iGestures and iCam specs....)

I dont have his email but you can try tcook@apple.com or cook.t@apple.com

@Astro said:

The ancients Greeks also believed the world was flat, look how that turned out.

Mike

If you were the intellectual you self-declared yourself to be, you would know that Greeks were aware of the world being round from even before classical antiquity (see myth of Zeus and the two doves), down to historical times (see Plato's Timeaus), and subsequently the Hellenistic period (see Eratosthenes). And the same goes for Heliocentricity. They just didn't feel the necessity to challenge and frighten the rest of the world, who anyway found out for themselves a couple of thousand years later by having access to the classical texts through the Medici and the Renaissance (Galileo and Copernicus never bothered to reveal their sources; they weren't the only ones - see Descartes and the famous "I think therefore I am", hint-hint: Parmenides...)

Yes, Errikos the Demon Tongue, Defiler of the Crypt of the Eumenides' Avenged,  wasn't the first conception of the world as spherical conjectured by one of the philosophers as an explanation of the slow disappearance of the mast of a ship?  It was a Greek philosopher unless I am half-remembering wrongly.  It is astounding how many concepts that later became scientifically proven were first conceived by the Greeks.  The artistic, dramatic and architectural creativity as well are amazing.  But the great tragedy of ancient Greek culture is that there is no record of the music.  Was it as great as Aeschylus, Euripides or Sophocles in drama, Homer in poetry, the creator of the Parthenon in architecture, the Spartans in war...

the Athenians in toga-partying? 

We will never know. 

Yes, I consider it the greatest tragedy ever, that we know nothing of what classical greek music sounded like... (The loss of Mozart at 36 and W.W.I+II are far behind in my worldview).

We know many of the theoretical writings and their academic sophistication, beginning with the Pythagoreans and continuing with countless others, we know of the legendary effects of that music from what we know of Orpheus, as well as Pythagoras again who actually used music to cure ailments (not just headaches, but even liver problems, something that science is only now beginning to investigate), but we know nothing of the music itself - by the way, Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides were composers as well, and their theatrical works were actually music-dramas (Aeschylus' ones were completely sung through, and the rendition of one of Euripides' songs was enough to countermand the official military directive of the victorious Spartans to destroy Athens at the end of the Peloponnesian War).

I consider the attempts by some to "re-create" that music in recent times as hilarious and as pitiful as people attempting to recreate Hans or Johnny. The real music would have been at least as epochal, as grand, as beautiful, as definitive, and as timeless as the architecture, the sculpture, and the poetry of the times, as we know that during their time, the classical Greeks considered music to have been the most evolved of the arts!!...

P.S.: Pity we don't know much about the parties either.... 

P.S.2: Sorry this has got nothing to do with Dedicated Audio PCs. Can you begin to imagine how much more Aeschylus and Beethoven could have done with a rig like that?... Spewccati-loops at the very least!... Oh, and Aeschylus would have used an Apple (aesthetics you see...)

@Errikos said:

as timeless as the architecture, the sculpture, and the poetry of the times, as we know that during their time, the classical Greeks considered music to have been the most evolved of the arts!!...

Yes, that is frightening to think of.  By the way, I was noticing recently how HEARING The Iliad, even though it is translated, is a compeltely different experience than reading it.  Of course Homer originally sang these great stories in verse.  But it is interesting how down through the centuries, even translated into a different language, the power of that story still echoes.  Though I was listening to a great British actor intoning a brilliant translation -  an actor capable of bringing the story to life. But that is part of the poetry - performance.  it was normal to hear that in the ancient days.  It was only in recent times that poetry was separated from singing.

@William said:

Of course Homer originally sang these great stories in verse.

That is why there was no pressing need to put this huge epic "down on paper", as people were able to memorize it because of the musical setting (and through frequent repetitions obviously).