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  • A gift for a friend, help needed !

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    Hello !

    First of all I want to thank this community for the tons and tons of informations I collected in order to improve my workflow as composer..you are all greeaat, and it's because of this magic application Vienna Ensemble Pro is, if I'm still recording with Pro Tools, that is the only D.A.W. I know ! 

    A complete revolution !! I'm still amazed...

    I'm writing this post to receive an advice about how to make one of my greatest friend happy, without needing to buy for him as gift Vienna Ensemble Pro 5 a second time

    ...in the sense....

    I just use ONE master computer, which is also a slave at the same time, and ONE extra computer,far less powerful, which I think to use in case I need extra headroom in my workflow...so in total I use 2 VEPRO licenses, plus of course the included Epic Orchestra one...I do not plan to buy a new computer for a long.

    QUESTION:

    Is it possible in someways to detache my third unused VEPRO license and drop it as a gift in the vienna key of my friend, who'd love to use it in his slave pc ?

    the issue is that we have no way to see each other in brief times, as he actually works and live quite far from me, so I can't have access physically to his key, in order to simply transfer the license regularly...

    So I was wondering if there is a way, with the help of the VSL support, to realize this...this would make him very happy !

    For instance, is it possible for VSL to "retain" (or to "absorb") one of my already downloaded and "keyed" license of VEPRO 5, and drop it the account of my this very friend?

    I ask VSL support to give me the quickest reply as possible, as I'd like to do this move in no more than 15 days.

    Thank you in advance for reading and taking care of my request.

    Beatlesforever
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    Welcome Beatlesforever [:)],

    Great to see how happy you are with Vienna Ensemble PRO!

    As you are the only license taker for VE PRO (and we have decided to give you 3 licenses for your convenience), it is not possible to sell or give away separate licenses. You can sell all licenses that came with your VE PRO purchase, if we monitor this license transfer (in such a case, please contact ).

    The handling fee for the license transfer is 10% of the current price of the registered products (minimum USD 70.00/EUR 50.00/GBP 45.00).

    It is also not possible to retain or absorb any licenses from your key, let alone transfer the license from one key to another without having them available physically.

    Sorry to have no better news here. As we see it, Vienna Ensemble PRO (4 and 5) are very reasonably priced products with a lot of development effort and ongoing high-maintenance support.

    You saw, what VE PRO did for your workflow with Pro Tools, I hope that your friend will find out the same.

    A free demo license to check out VE PRO 5 is available here (click "try").

    Best,

    Paul

    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
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    Thank you very much Paul for giving me a bit of your time and for your very quick reply.

    Don't want to appear insistent by further developing this thread with another message of mine, but just need one last clarification, which born after having read this you wrote

    @Paul said:

    It is also not possible to retain or absorb any licenses from your key, let alone transfer the license from one key to another without having them available physically.

    Let's put it in this way:

    Let's say I have 2 systems working, one in my headquarters, directed by me, made by a master/slave computer plus another slave (2 vepro licenses + epic orchestra), and another system, directed by my friend (who works for me), made by just a master computer and a slave (1 vepro license), located in a completely different place of the world.

    What might happen, technically speaking, if my friend come to visit me let's say in about one month, and I've bought and licensed one extra Vienna or eLicenser key under my own VSL account, dropped "physically" my unused VEPRO license into it,and give the key to my friend to take it away? Can't I consider him and his system just as an external extension of my workflow, however working for me and under my name? In this case, my third license wouldn't be "wasted", and I'm still operating inside the legal thresholds of what I have bought from VSL (please correct this very last statement, if it's not true!)

    Really, sorry again to be so annoying, but I bet I'm not the only one living such case, and I think this explanations from you Paul in regards would be of help to everybody...in the end, if you think of it;

    a) Not the majority of the people have 3 or 4 computers running together, and we've paid to have something we do not want to be partially "wasted", because unused

    b) Being this "a gift" for my friend, I unfortunately at the moment have no possibilities to buy for him another new VEPRO 5, which, tho being cheap for what it does, it's still "expensive" for my actual condition...if my friend want to buy it, then he will do so in a second time (and, who knows, once we meet again he will re-transfer his "gift" license back to me), but again this is a gift for him, just to make him fully try this masterpiece of application, and just to give a sense to the existence of 3 licenses

     Now I really need to know if this I've just said makes sense....

    I also wondered if, having a "detached" license of vepro, would cause issues in eventual upgrades of the application (dunno, like a "check" of the elicenser key which determines I miss one license, so I'm not eligible of downloading, authorizing and using an upgrade anymore, even tho I already bought it ( as I did for instance by buying the upgrade from vepro4 to vepro5)

    The last message you'll receive after this one would be just a BIG THANK YOU, independently of what your answer will be Paul, as, once cleared this situation I'm living, I have no questions anymore. You can close the case/thread then lol !!

    But, in the meantime, again THANK YOU VERY MUCH VIENNA ! ! !

    BeatlesForever
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    Hello BeatlerForever,

    Everyone who has an eLicenser key can fully try this masterpiece with a free demo license, working for 30 days, available on the product page of VE PRO 5 (click "try"), that´s the beatuy of our software products (you can and should do the same with Vienna Suite, Vienna MIR PRO, Vienna Instruments PRO!!).

    I understand where you are going, and we are very clear in our terms of license, which you agreed upon.

    This is the third question:

    Can my writing partner, colleagues or friends use the sounds or the software once I’ve licensed the product? Can I form a group to buy and share products?
    NO, each person who uses the sounds or the software must purchase their own copy (which licenses them to use the sounds). Anyone other than the original purchaser of the product, who uses the sounds or the software, is doing so illegally – risking legal action against both them and their clients! Contact us regarding package deals for special circumstances.

    @Another User said:

    I also wondered if, having a "detached" license of vepro, would cause issues in eventual upgrades of the application (dunno, like a "check" of the elicenser key which determines I miss one license, so I'm not eligible of downloading, authorizing and using an upgrade anymore, even tho I already bought it ( as I did for instance by buying the upgrade from vepro4 to vepro5)

    I can now clearly see where this is going [:(], and unfortunately it´s closely linked to the many discussions about lost keys.

    The answer is: You are the only person who is allowed to use your licenses (see above).

    Best,

    Paul

    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
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    @Paul said:

    [quote=BeatlesForever]I also wondered if, having a "detached" license of vepro, would cause issues in eventual upgrades of the application (dunno, like a "check" of the elicenser key which determines I miss one license, so I'm not eligible of downloading, authorizing and using an upgrade anymore, even tho I already bought it ( as I did for instance by buying the upgrade from vepro4 to vepro5)

    Now I get why you are sad...don't worry I was reasoning on a hyphothesis, one of the possible whys I should not pass my licenses into another key ! But the only why is that the agreements does not allow this in any case, so it suffices as answer.

    I missed on reading that part, I'm sorry...and of course I don't do anything before asking, that's the why of this thread, which I cured balancing every words in order to be clear and to be sure at the very best about what I had in my mind.

    BeatlesForever