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  • Hi Dietz, thanks!

    I understand the difference between a conventional AUX-send scheme and the 3-dimensional positioning of MIR, but still I would like to be able to alter the mix between the dry signal component and the set of impulse responses, to make a signal be "less in the room". Maybe this is just hypothetical, but for example, I would like to take a vocal in Pro Tools and blend/position it with the rest of the (MIR-)mix, to get a bit of the same ambience and a sence of depth, and simultaneously make it stand out a bit, and be more upfront. If that's not possible within MIR, maybe I could leave a bit of the dry signal in Pro Tools in the mix. (If the Delay Compensation between Pro Tools and VEP works, so that it lines up without phasing).

    Best, Hakan


  • This is actually very easy to achieve and very much the way MIR Pro is intended to be used.

    Process the vocal track like you usually would. Use the "Audio Input" plug-in to send the signal to VE Pro / MIR Pro. Within MIR Pro, simply adjust its individual dry/wet mix to your liking (... look at it as the blend between a room-mic and and a close mic). Send the "MIRed" signal back to ProTools on a dedicated output for easy further handling.

    That's it. :-)

    HTH,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Thanks again for rapid answers, Dietz!

    I think maybe you misunderstood me. [*-)]

    Would it be possible to blend the "MIRed" signal with the "unMIRed" signal, regardless of the dry/wet mix inside MIR?


  • Technically it would be possible, of course only within the margins of ProTools' latency compensation abilities, and as long as you don't use any kind of processing that changes the phase of the dry signal (EQ, Character Presets, etc.).

    Conceptually it doesn't make much sense as long as you're not aiming for some kind of special effect. :-)

    Kind regards,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Ok, I see, I think I better get MIR and start working with it, to find out how to make the best use of it with my setup.  [:)]

    I know it's a different concept, with MIRs 3-dimensional positioning and whatever, but I still I don't understand why it's not possible to have separate controls for dry, wet, early-, and tail-IRs, as in Hybrid Reverb for example. But hopefully that's a non-issue.

    Now, let's decide what libraries to buy in the Holiday Offers!   [:D]

    Happy New Year, Hakan


  • You have these controls - even including the algorithmic part of Hybrid Reverb (in form of  the "MIRacle" add-on). it's just that MIR is not a reverb plugin. :-)


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • When I briefly tried the demo, with the wet/dry set to 100% dry, I thought it still was to much room sound/color on some sources. I could alter that to some degree by moving the source around, but not enough for what I had in mind. Even though it's much more than a reverb, it would be nice to be able to blend in some of the original source in some situations.


  • Huh? 100% dry is ... well ... 100% dry. 8-/ ... No room / IR-information left.

    Something must have gone wrong in your test setup.

    What's left is the positioning of the dry signal in the stereo (or multichannel surround) field.


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • I see, if that's the case, it explains the confusion. Either I'll just buy it, or apply for a new demo-period. After my initial test, I installed OS X 10.7.2 with lots of reboots of VEP and Pro Tools, so that I quickly ran out of MIR-starts.


  • Within 30 days after the first start, you can "re-fill" your demo license with new starts as often as you want to (... use the eLicenser's Control Panel).

    ->  http://www.vsl.co.at/en/211/442/395/561/701/412.htm

    HTH,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library