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    @Cyril said:

    What is advantage has the Event input  compared to IAC ?

    Looks like we are having the same problems

    Don't know about the problems with IAC but this is starting to be annoying.

    As I said before, inserting the I/O plug into the main VEP instance fixes the  absence of audio and the huge latency, but is not a solution. It hogs one of the cores so there are artifacts and nasty noises.

    It's a big issue  with one of the most used DAWs aout there (Logic). I'm still wondering how the beta testers and the staff didn't see it [:|]
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    " I'm still wondering how the beta testers and the staff didn't see it"

    As cojoncio said, I can't understand how come vsl staff didn't see this big problem.

    I know karel is working hard to fix this problem but there should a lots of other staff and beta testers.

    don't get me wrong, despite this issue VEP is a very usefull program.

    But I spent one week with vep5 problem and I'm back to vep4.

    vep5 has a great concept and will be very usefull especially for logic users.

    I hope It will woking as promised asap 
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    @cojoncio said:

    It's a big issue  with one of the most used DAWs aout there (Logic). I'm still wondering how the beta testers and the staff didn't see it

    The issue is not on Logic side, on my 12 core Macpro I have hardly any cpu load on the meter of Logic

    On the CPU meter of my VE PRO I can read 35/40 % load

    On the CPU meters on my MAC the 12 CPU are under 50 % and the 12 thread are around 30 %

    Looks like there is a bug ; that they forgot to read the midi off of some notes, this causing hangging notes

    I am going to try to split my big VE in two to see If I can get more notes played !

    One question, if a VI 2 is not used does it put load on VSL engine ?

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    Concerning the Beta tester, this is for sure they did not do there job !

    I have propose to Beta test ; they refused !!!!

    1st trial I do I find THE big bug !!!

    I have found other bugs just in one session using only VE Pro 5 (without MIR)

    I dont know how VSL treat there Beta tester, I have been spending a lot of time to help VSL testing VE PRO when they improve the engine for the SSD, I had to make a remark to get a thanks, i did not get any rewards.

     So if they treat there beta tester like this, I am not surprise that we found quite a few bugs

    If you want to get a good job you must reward every work.

    I was thinking to buy MIR for Xmas and my birthday, I am going to wait they fixe this bug !!

    Best

    Cyril
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    Yep. As I've said in another thread, this is a bug. When the play bar is pressed the notes sound with a huge latency. When it's stopped there are no sound coming out from the Event Input tracks.

    As for the beta testers, I'd rather make no comments. And I'm sorry to hear Cyril's situation concerning his testing for VSL.

    @moviescoring_30579 said:

    VEP is a very usefull program. vep5 has a great concept and will be very usefull especially for logic users.

    I can see several users are switching back to VEP4. For me VEP5 is pretty stable (as 4 was) and I upgraded just to get rid of the 16 midi limitation in AU, but at this point is completely useless. I paid for nothing.

    Really hope this get fixed soon
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    The solution is on the horizon. An update will be released as soon as possible.
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    @Keyzz said:

    and I just spent  300 bills  for nuttin  

    What is nuttin ?
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    "Nuttin" is the opposite of "sumpin".  :)

    Steve
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    @Steve_DC said:

    "Nuttin" is the opposite of "sumpin".  😊

    Steve

    sumpin is unknown in the English to French dictionnary ;)
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    My 94 instruments template now work with  Logic 9, VEP SERVER PRO 5 and 1 x VEP 5 and MIR PRO

    It sounds great !!!!

    Sometimes I get hanging notes on very heavy parts, It is working 95%

    If you need help, send me a PM at cb dot blanc at numericable dot com

    Any idea for the best buffer size setting for a SATA III raid 0 of 4 x ssd and a SATA II SSD ?

    Best

    Cyril
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    A solution to use multiple ports without the event input plugin is currently in testing here at VSL. We hope to get the update out as soon as possible.
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    Now that would pretty awesome!  
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    So far it works fine already. We just need to have it more thoroughly tested before we release it. I'm right now running 16 midi ports to one AU plugin here myself, giving 256 midi channels to one VEPro instance.
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    Teaser... [;)]
  • Cyril BlancC
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    you can send it to me I can test it with my 94 ports and my cpu exterminator song [;)] 
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    Does anyone know if this got resolved? A just posted a similar problem in a new thread.

    Thank you.

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     D -

    There is a new version of VE Pro 5 just out, version 10309 that's supposed to fix most of the problems.  You use a special Environment set up to get around the 16 instrument limit and give you control over volume (CC 7) of each.    There's a file, VEP Multiport Layer.logic, that you get from VSL to set up the Environment. 

    VSL reports, however, that there is a problem in Logic in which notes are sometimes dropped, and there is nothing they can do about it.  VSL says they have contacted Apple about it.  The report on this remaining issue is contained in a sticky thread posted at the top of the Software forum:  http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/t/31587.aspx.  I'm hoping the problem isn't too bad, or Apple fixes it (good luck), as I do NOT want to learn another DAW.  If Logic problems are serious and persist, I think VSL should advise us which of the DAWs out there, that can be used on an Apple Intel machine, have the fewest problems with VE Pro.

    Not all good news, I'm afraid.  Steve
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    VSL reports, however, that there is a problem in Logic in which notes are sometimes dropped, and there is nothing they can do about it.  VSL says they have contacted Apple about it.  The report on this remaining issue is contained in a sticky thread posted at the top of the Software forum:  http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/t/31587.aspx.  I'm hoping the problem isn't too bad, or Apple fixes it (good luck), as I do NOT want to learn another DAW.  If Logic problems are serious and persist, I think VSL should advise us which of the DAWs out there, that can be used on an Apple Intel machine, have the fewest problems with VE Pro.

    Not all good news, I'm afraid.  Steve

    I have good succes spliting my 97 VI between Event input and IAC or putting all my VI under IAC on it's own !!!

    Best

    Cyril
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    Cyril --

    Thank you for the suggestion.  I have never really understood IAC, which I think is a way to set up additional MIDI ports.  I assume you plug IAC into Logic somehow, as though it were a separate keyboard, but I confess the prospect of trying to learn all this is daunting.
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    read this :

    http://sites.google.com/site/mfalab/mac-stuff/how-to-use-the-iac-driver

    If you do not manage I can send you a tutorial song when I return next Monday

    Best

    Cyril
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    @Steve_DC said:

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    There is a new version of VE Pro 5 just out, version 10309 that's supposed to fix most of the problems.  You use a special Environment set up to get around the 16 instrument limit and give you control over volume (CC 7) of each.    There's a file, VEP Multiport Layer.logic, that you get from VSL to set up the Environment. 

    VSL reports, however, that there is a problem in Logic in which notes are sometimes dropped, and there is nothing they can do about it.  VSL says they have contacted Apple about it.  The report on this remaining issue is contained in a sticky thread posted at the top of the Software forum:  http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/t/31587.aspx.  I'm hoping the problem isn't too bad, or Apple fixes it (good luck), as I do NOT want to learn another DAW.  If Logic problems are serious and persist, I think VSL should advise us which of the DAWs out there, that can be used on an Apple Intel machine, have the fewest problems with VE Pro.

    Not all good news, I'm afraid.  Steve

    Thanks Steve!

    For some reason I wasn't subscribed to the thread and didn't get your reply till just now.

    The hanging notes will be a deal breaker for me so I am going to try and get by with the event input and see how that goes.

    Logic does seem to be falling behind the competition these days. It might just be time to switch to Protools when they release the 64bit version (I hear the midi features are excellent now). At least we know Avid wants to be a production software company. Apple I'm not so sure about.

    Thanks again.

    d