Hi,

Also a good idea to check out the Auto Voicing Video Tutorial and the Dimension Brass Video (Dimension Brass benefits BIG TIME from this feature).

Best,

Paul

Okay. I've tried inserting ~B0,xx pitch bend commands into my Sibelius score to get a violin II effect (having transposed the line in Sibelius). The commands work with General MIDI sounds and Sibelius Sounds 7 but they do not work if I have VSL Solo Strings loaded as a playback configuration. The Sibelius forum people have referred me back here.

Can anyone explain how to fix this?

What settngs should I make in VIPro II to get a tone or semitone to automatically pitchbend down when the Solo Strings plays back the Sibelius score?

Hi Oceanview!

On the Advanced/Controller Map tab you can assign a controller to pitch (normally the pitch wheel). On the Advanced/Options tab you can set the range of the pitch bend range.

Anyway, if you use the Violin 2 patches, you have other samples for your second violin anyway and don't need those pitch bending tricks. As stevetrumpet suggested, you could use your violin 1 presets and replace the violin 1 patches with the according violin 2 patches.

Best,
Andi

Thanks andi. With pitch = wheel and 200 cents in the pitch-bend the command ~B0,32 bring the pitch back down a semitone which is great. I did however click the learn button - was that necessary? (I found a reference on them forum by someone else who was trying to use pitch bend).

I would like to use this technique with my old playback configurations because I know they work and have additional saved articulations I added, rather than try to change them to VE Strings which I haven't tried yet.

Thanks for this.

Hi Oceanview!

Of course it's also possible to assign a controller with the learn function by right-clicking on the fader and moving a controller.

You could also replace the patches of the VI presets for the old solo strings sound set with violin 2 patches.

Best,
Andi

 Hello,

are theses new patches available for SE and SE+?

Thank you!

Hello Vincent!

Sorry to say, that the second violin patches are not available for the Special Edition.

Best regards,
Andi

I found out an alternative way to achieve a VI 2 instrument in VEpro 2 retuning the instrument to avoid phasing with the interaction with VI 1.

I am using the Special Edition library for this.

The system works out for me and I am curious to know if Vienna will agree and approve it:

this is how it works:

in VIpro 2 load the SP ED Orchestral Strings/Strings violins matrix.

This is going to be your 2nd Violins after you do the following FOR EVERY SLOT of your matrix violin:

1. in advance view, select the VI-14 staccato slot, select Edit, under Semitone select 2.

2. In Basic view you have to activate if not already visible a Pitch Bend fader.

For that you select an empty channel of the Controller mixer and in the lower square assign "pitch bend" after in the upper square assign "wheel". The fader value must be 0.

remember that this must be done for every single slot in you matrix. Once is done you can save the matrix as your SP ED VI2 personal matrix

Thats it!

Now when you play VI1+VI2 in unison you should not hear any phasing because VI2 has been retuned to play on the next near sample.

PD.:I use this configuration with SIbelius 7 and I don't have to do anything in SIbelius at all to make it work. All The programing is done in VIpro2. Once is done is saved with the VEpro project and you don't have to program it never again.

I hope this was helpful

good luck

Hi Tomas!

I can approve, that this is a way to avoid using the same sample for first and second violin when they play in unison.

For anyone else interested: This can also be done with the free Vienna Instruments player.

Best regards,
Andi

Are you sure Andi that we can do this with the free player?

I don't see the semitone option...

Ha ok,  i need Vienna Ensemble Pro,  which i don't have.  ;)

Hi Vincent!

You don't need Vienna Ensemble Pro. In the free Vienna Instruments player the semitone function is called "Transp." and can be found in the Control Edit/Edit Cell menu.

Best,
Andi

 Thanks for your answers andi,  it's very appreciated.

I see the transpose function,  but what i do next?

''For that you select an empty channel of the Controller mixer and in the lower square assign "pitch bend" after in the upper square assign "wheel". The fader value must be 0.''

Can i do this with the free VE?  How do i have to use my sequencer? 

Thank you again,

Vincent

 Hmmm,  i tought that the technique would permit to play in unison,  on the same note...  I probably need in my sequencer

to play the notes 2 semitones under my desired value,  right?

Hi Vincent!

Here is in detail what you can do with the free Vienna Instruments player to get alternative samples:
- Go to the Perform/Map control page and assign the Pitch Wheel to Pitch.
- Go to the Control Edit/Edit Cell menu of all cells included in your matrix and set "Transp." to 2.
- In your sequencer set the Pitch Wheel value for the track assigned to this instrument to 0.

Now you can enter the notes as you are used to. No further transposition is necessary.

Best,
Andi

 Thank you very much Andy.  ;)

@andi said:

Hello Vincent!

Sorry to say, that the second violin patches are not available for the Special Edition.

Best regards,
Andi

2nd violins were created for all of our String collections (Solo S. I+II, Chamber S. I+II, Orchestral S. I and Appassionata S. I+II).

Best,
Andi

@andi said:

2nd violins were created for all of our String collections (Solo S. I+II, Chamber S. I+II, Orchestral S. I and Appassionata S. I+II).

Best,
Andi