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  • voice groups with default matrices

    Hi,

    Is it possible to make voice groups with the default matrices? I hoped that it was easy to do, but I can't come up with it how to do that. The only thing which worked was by making an entire new matrix. But that costs a lot of time and then you only have one playing technique for instance sfz.

    So I wonder if it is possible to do that with matrices instead of making a matrix of one articulation.


  • Hello Arnold

    What do you mean exatly with "voice groups"?

    Which voices do you want to combine?

    Best

    Beat Kaufmann


    - Tips & Tricks while using Samples of VSL.. see at: https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/ - Tutorial "Mixing an Orchestra": https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/mixing-an-orchestra/
  • The same question as Beat + are we talking VI or VI PRO?


  • Hi Beat and Goran,

    What I try to achieve is something similar as the Dimension Brass DVD. I found out what that is yesterday.

    What I want is to load different solo trumpet matrices into 1 VI Pro device in order to let them play together when there is a unison section and that they play apart when there is a divisi section in my score.

    There must be a way to do that, but do I have to reinvent the wheel? I hope not, that's why I am asking.

    Thanks!


  • Hello Arnold!

    You could load two Special Edition matrices to one VI Pro. One with a solo trumpet and one with a trumpet ensemble. Then switch between these matrices.

    As far as I know, you are working with Sibelius, right? To switch between solo and ensemble trumpets in Sibelius, there is also another way. Take a look at the "Optimizing Sibelius playback" manual, page 18. It can be downloaded here:
    http://www.vsl.co.at/en/68/141/460/576/655.htm

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
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    @Arnold Veeman said:

    Hi Beat and Goran,

    What I try to achieve is something similar as the Dimension Brass DVD. I found out what that is yesterday.

    What I want is to load different solo trumpet matrices into 1 VI Pro device in order to let them play together when there is a unison section and that they play apart when there is a divisi section in my score.

    There must be a way to do that, but do I have to reinvent the wheel? I hope not, that's why I am asking.

    Thanks!

    Hi Arnold

    Andrey has already explained one possibilty. There is, I believe, an another one (I never needed to do this myself, but if I have properly understood the principles on which the slot voice section in VI PRO works (with, of course, voicing activated), it should function).

    In your first matrix, set all slots with patches in them to play the first note only (don't forget to activate voicing). Be sure to do this for all patches you want to play one voice at a time only)

    In your second matrix, you'll need two different cells for each set of patches you want to play both in unisono and the second voice in divisi. For the first set of such cells do as with the first matrix (this set of cells will play unsiono, but won't play the second voice in divisi). For the second set of cells, all slots have to be assignd to voice 2 (this set plays only second voice in divisi).

    Use keyswitches in the MIDI track to toggle between set 1 and set 2 of cells of the 2nd matrix (set 1 should be activated for unisono, set 2 for divisi).

    Important: for this to function properly, you also have to make a 2nd set of cells identical to the 1st set of cells in the 1st matrix and make it react to the same keyswichtes as the 2nd set of cells of the 2nd matrix (as both matrices react to the same MIDI track with the same keyswitches). If you don't do this, the first matrix wont play the first note of the divisi when the second matrix plays the second.

    Tell me if it worked...