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  • Use of sordino-profiles necessary?

    T
    T

    In MIR we have sordino-profiles for all the strings (solos, chambers, orchestra and appassionata). In terms of sound: Do these sordino-profiles really change things in comparison with the respective non-sordino-profiles? Or is it possible to pick one instance of "Orchestra Strings" in MIR (putting just one non-sordino-icon on stage) and to also use sordino-patches within this instance? If not, building a full orchestra-template will take the double-amount of icons (sordino-profiles and non-sordino-profiles) to be put onto the MIR-stage...

    Best,

    Thinwood
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD

    Of course, a muted instrument will behave differently than an unmuted one in Real Life. Apart from the different Directivity Profiles (i.e. the way an instrument emanates certain freqencies into certain directions), MIR's Instrument Profiles also take into account the original recording setup (i.e. the position of the microphones in respect to the recorded instrument), as well as the tailor-made Character Presets and the Natural Volume Settings. You will lose all of these when you don't use the actual instrument's Profile.

    The actual difference will depend a lot on the context, though. It might very well be that you won't notice too much difference in the way the instrument interacts with the room from a certain position in the stage. You _will_ note the difference when you use Character Presets, for example.

    That said, you could have best of both worlds using Groups and the Icon's Hide-option. Just group all aspects of both the non-sordino as well as the sordino-strings, but one on the top of the other, and "Hide" one of them from the Venue Map. You will be able to control all the grouped aspects of both (or more) Instruments on behalf of one Icon. - Hidden instruments will remain visible in the Instrument List, of course.

    HTH,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • T
    T

    Thank you very much for your quick and profound answer, Dietz. So I´ll stick to extra-icons for the sordino-instruments... and to separate tracks in cubase (with one midi-channel for the sordino-instrument and another one for the non-sordino-instrument).

    Have a nice Sunday,

    Thinwood
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD
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    Your're welcome!

    @Thinwood said:

    Thank you very much for your quick and profound answer, Dietz. So I´ll stick to extra-icons for the sordino-instruments... and two separate tracks in cubase (with one midi-channel for the sordino-instrument and another one for the non-sordino-instrument).

    Have a nice Sunday,

    Thinwood

    Yes, that's the only downside to this setup - you will have to have two MIDI tracks. But as long as you're aiming for the most differentiated result, it's worth the hassle 😉.

    ... for the occasional sordino line in an otherwise non-muted arrangement, using one MIDI track as well as one player & Icon within MIR might do the trick, too - just for the sake of clarity.

    Kind regards,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library