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Great that we have the old versions for done work too!!

btw - the little bug (license error message for some vsl-instruments) has gone since update MIR 1836!

Thanks a lot!! 

Frank 

Thanks a lot for all the positive comments! Keep them coming ... 😉

@patrik said:

[...] I guess the overall sound of MIR got a little bit more brilliant, if I am not mistaken. [...]

Yes, in a way. Actually it is an improvement in regard of the improved pre-processing of the raw Ambisonic IR data. The new V.2 RoomPacks allow for any chosen output microphone setup without the loss of high frequency content that was inherent to the "old" decoding process.

This is why we decided to allow V.1 and V.2  side-by-side, because depending on the Output Format, V.1-based projects may sound quite different when using the same Venue, but from a V.2-RoomPack.

As a rule of thumb it is good to know that figure-8-based Main Microphone Setups (like "Blumlein crossed fig.-8") will sound more or less identical, while setups with increasing omni-component (like "Standard X/Y") will benefit a lot from the new way of doing things. V.2 based Ambisonic decoding will sound homogeneous frequency-wise, independently from the selected Main Microphone characteristics.

... in this context it let me point out that MIR 1.3 now starts with a new Default Output Format, which is broader and "more stereo" than the previous, pretty conservative "X/Y Wide"-setup (... which is still available, of course).

Kind regards,

UPDATE:

The Audio Previews for both new MIR Venues are available online now! These Previews are the same prerendered audio examples that are selectable from MIR's Room Editor window (converted to mp3 for online release).

Keep in mind that they are meant to give you a basic idea from a Venue's acoustic characteristics only. Of course the actual results from MIR can (and will) vary according to the actual settings chosen.

-> Teldex Studio Berlin - Previews

-> Pilgrimage Church Maria Strassengel - Previews

Kind regards,

I'm confused - as usual!

I have downloaded and installed the new roompacks using the VSL downloader. I now have three folders on the same drive.

The first is programme data - VSL - Vienna MIR - and that contains my existing room VMI files.

The second and third folders contain the new room packs with BIN files.

The new rooms do not show up in MIR.

What should I do?

Dave,

there should be an installer application (*.exe) carrying the same name as the *.bin files. Click it for installing the new RoomPacks.

... this is also explained in detail in all RoomPack manuals.

Kind regards,

UPDATE:

@cgernaey said:

[...] I did find that if you hit the "preview" it errors out.  The room loads fine with my projects and sounds great, just thought I would point out the preview isn't working at the moment. [...]

There's a new build of RoomPack 2 online which corrects this error. Other than that, the data is identical.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

If I want to correct this preview error for the Teldex studios, do I need to download the entire two gigabyte file or is there a quicker fix?

Marko

I hardly dare to say it ... but there's no other cure than downloading the whole thing again. ... [:S] Each RoomPack is one monolithic file, which doesn't allow for any "side entrances".

But as I wrote before: The good thing is that there's nothing wrong with using the faulty build for real work, with the exception of the Preview, which can be considered a convenience feature anyway.

Once I have installed the roompacks, can I delete the bin files? I won't need them unless I decide to install again. Am  II right on this?

Marko

Yes.

In the Teldex Larger Orchestra Preset,  are the intruments numbered from 29 to 34 meant for Dimension Brass?

Dear MIR users,

I'm very happy about the release of Teldex Studio Berlin for Vienna MIR. This most recent addition to our RoomPack 2 – Studios & Soundstages offers the ideal acoustic environment for all kinds of contemporary orchestral music production.

Taking the opportunity, I would like to share my personal "orchestral starting points" for this prestigious soundstage with you. One is a full-blown setup with 80 Vienna Instruments for large symphonic arrangements. The second one is meant to be used with smaller ensembles; it uses 32 Vienna Instruments, which make it a good choice for MIR SE users, too.

Both presets are based on examples of typical orchestral recording sessions supplied by the highly experienced, award-winning Teldex Studio staff themselves. All Icons are pre-positioned, levelled, labeled and assigned to Groups. Many of them make use of MIR's unique Character Presets.

None of the Vienna Instruments has any sample data loaded, though. This is done on purpose: Personally, I tend to look at these presets as an orchestra which has already taken seat, but no scores yet on the music stands in front of them. Depending on the task at hand I individually load selected Matrices into the Vienna Instruments I’m planning to use.

The beauty of this is that loading times are kept at a bare minimum. RAM usage is no issue either, as the number of loaded samples is totally scalable depending on the system's capabilites. Apart from that these presets can be used with a diverse set of VSL products, be it Special Edition, Download Libraries or DVD, Standard or Extended content.

In other words – every MIR user is empowered to generate his own personal orchestral starting points from these two basic setups.

Of course, these presets don't pretend to be an "instant mix". Like me, you will always find yourself changing some volume settings here, adding a plug-in there, or moving one instrument to the other side, just because it fits better to a certain arrangement. It's also worth mentioning that I decided to stick to the smaller Boesendorfer Imperial grand piano instead of the much more elaborated Vienna Imperial, mostly in order to avoid any "Missing Instrument" messages for those users who don't own the latter yet.

I hope you’ll enjoy making music in this wonderful virtual hall as much as I do.

Yours sincerly,

Herb Tucmandl – Founder and Managing Director, VSL

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Operating instructions: Download the files from here. Copy the two *.MIR-files to an appropriate location on your hard-disk and open it from MIR's file dialog like any other MIR Project. Don't forget to rename before saving in case you want to come back to the original Presets later.

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Kind regards,

@Sergino Futurino said:

In the Teldex Larger Orchestra Preset,  are the instruments numbered from 29 to 34 meant for Dimension Brass?

No,  they are meant to be used with the conventional solo instruments.

Diets,

When will the original room pack be released in version 2 or are the download files from 2-14-2011 (version 1.0.231) the already version 2?

Thanks,

Maestro2be

@cgernaey said:

When will the original room pack be released in version 2 or are the download files from 2-14-2011 (version 1.0.231) the already version 2?

No, Version 1.0.231 is just that - V.1 😉 !

Getting the Konzerthaus RoomPack V.2 ready is on top of my priority list. Thanks for your patience!

@Dietz said:

No, Version 1.0.231 is just that - V.1 😉 !

'Cause of the date I thought as well it would be the new update and was almost on the way to download it. So thanks for information!

And looking forward to KH - Roompack V.2

Kind regards

Frank  

@Dietz said:

No, Version 1.0.231 is just that - V.1 😉 !

Good question! - ? 

Standard (i.e. Konzerthaus) RoomPack V.2 is mostly an update (introducing some features that were initially meant to be MIR Pro only) and a refinement of the existing Venues, but it contains a fixes for a few mapping errors in the Konzerthaus Foyer, too (... most likely, you won't notice the difference; it was for my personal peace of mind ;-)...). In addition, I'm working on new (additional) Starting Points.

IOW  - there's no need to download the latest V.1 as long as you didn't delete it from your HD unintentionally. 8-)

@Dietz said:

IOW  - there's no need to download the latest V.1 as long as you didn't delete it from your HD unintentionally. 8-)

I'm shure I do a lot of unintentionally blatant nonsense but God save me for doing this kind of sickness!