New MIR Venues:

We are very proud to announce the release of two exceptional new Venues for Vienna MIR. Built from a total of more than 8,000 individual impulse responses, these new halls greatly enhance the sonic possibilites of Vienna MIR and MIR SE.

• Teldex Studio Berlin is one of the most prestigious orchestral sound stages in the world - the first choice for all kinds of contemporary orchestral recordings, especially film scores.

• The Pilgrimage Church Maria Strassengel is a jewel of gothic architecture, built 650 years ago.

For detailed documentation and background information about the new additions to the MIR RoomPacks 2 and 3 please refer to the manuals:

→ RoomPack 2 - Studios & Soundstages - Manual

→ RoomPack 3 - Mystic Spaces - Manual

MIR's internal Preview audio files are available online, too:

→ Teldex Studio Berlin - Previews

→ Pilgrimage Church Maria Strassengel - Previews

Two exemplary session presets for Teldex Studio (developed by Herb Tucmandl himself) are available in your VSL User Area.

Dedicated audio demos will follow.

 Dietz!!

The room sounds amazing!  I love the Teldex Studio Berlin sound.  Very realistic and smooth sounding to me.  Seems to be working fine as well.  Although I did find that if you hit the "preview" it errors out.  The room loads fine with my projects and sounds great, just thought I would point out the preview isn't working at the moment.

When you say presets, you do mean an actual template with instrument icons already placed for us to work with correct?

Exciting stuff and thanks so much for giving the loyal current owners this free update!

Maestro2be

Thanks for the positive feedback! For me, Teldex is one of the most brilliant Venues we ever made for MIR.

@Another User said:

When you say presets, you do mean an actual template with instrument icons already placed for us to work with correct?

Yes - directly from Herb's working bench. 😊 They should be available for download later this week.

Kind regads,

Dietz, the installation instructions are not very clear. I don't have the D/L manager installed on my production machine, only the Internet one? So once I've transferred the files, how do I install them?

DG

Hi DG,

Should be simple: Copy the downloaded files, then run the exe, that should install the roompacks.

Best,

Paul

Yes, thanks a lot for the free new venues! Both rooms sound brilliant, but I have to agree, especially the Teldex is awesome! But also the Strassengel Church is really just the right in between from the other church to the Konzerthaus-venues! I will have a lot of fun with those! :-) and I guess the overall sound of MIR got a little bit more brilliant, if I am not mistaken... Since MIR is out I really use it as a standard when working with orchestral stuff, but still its level of realizm impresses me again and again, so I think even now, a while after release it is still groundbreaking! 

So this update is something like a real teaser for MIR pro, I guess.. :-) I am really looking forward to this!! 

Thanks a lot again guys..., 

Patrik

@Paul said:

Hi DG,

Should be simple: Copy the downloaded files, then run the exe, that should install the roompacks.

 

Best,

Paul

Ah yes, I should have looked in the folder. Might be a nice idea to include some instructions on the web page though.

DG

Thanks Vsl!

The new rooms free of charge for existing room pack owners!!!

In my oppinion, this is very generous from Vsl!

I cant evaluate the new rooms yet, they sound great though. And for sure, the Teldex studio is gonna be super important.

The versatility of Mir increases in a big way.

 +1

Great that we have the old versions for done work too!!

btw - the little bug (license error message for some vsl-instruments) has gone since update MIR 1836!

Thanks a lot!! 

Frank 

Thanks a lot for all the positive comments! Keep them coming ... 😉

@patrik said:

[...] I guess the overall sound of MIR got a little bit more brilliant, if I am not mistaken. [...]

Yes, in a way. Actually it is an improvement in regard of the improved pre-processing of the raw Ambisonic IR data. The new V.2 RoomPacks allow for any chosen output microphone setup without the loss of high frequency content that was inherent to the "old" decoding process.

This is why we decided to allow V.1 and V.2  side-by-side, because depending on the Output Format, V.1-based projects may sound quite different when using the same Venue, but from a V.2-RoomPack.

As a rule of thumb it is good to know that figure-8-based Main Microphone Setups (like "Blumlein crossed fig.-8") will sound more or less identical, while setups with increasing omni-component (like "Standard X/Y") will benefit a lot from the new way of doing things. V.2 based Ambisonic decoding will sound homogeneous frequency-wise, independently from the selected Main Microphone characteristics.

... in this context it let me point out that MIR 1.3 now starts with a new Default Output Format, which is broader and "more stereo" than the previous, pretty conservative "X/Y Wide"-setup (... which is still available, of course).

Kind regards,

UPDATE:

The Audio Previews for both new MIR Venues are available online now! These Previews are the same prerendered audio examples that are selectable from MIR's Room Editor window (converted to mp3 for online release).

Keep in mind that they are meant to give you a basic idea from a Venue's acoustic characteristics only. Of course the actual results from MIR can (and will) vary according to the actual settings chosen.

-> Teldex Studio Berlin - Previews

-> Pilgrimage Church Maria Strassengel - Previews

Kind regards,

I'm confused - as usual!

I have downloaded and installed the new roompacks using the VSL downloader. I now have three folders on the same drive.

The first is programme data - VSL - Vienna MIR - and that contains my existing room VMI files.

The second and third folders contain the new room packs with BIN files.

The new rooms do not show up in MIR.

What should I do?

Dave,

there should be an installer application (*.exe) carrying the same name as the *.bin files. Click it for installing the new RoomPacks.

... this is also explained in detail in all RoomPack manuals.

Kind regards,

UPDATE:

@cgernaey said:

[...] I did find that if you hit the "preview" it errors out.  The room loads fine with my projects and sounds great, just thought I would point out the preview isn't working at the moment. [...]

There's a new build of RoomPack 2 online which corrects this error. Other than that, the data is identical.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

If I want to correct this preview error for the Teldex studios, do I need to download the entire two gigabyte file or is there a quicker fix?

Marko

I hardly dare to say it ... but there's no other cure than downloading the whole thing again. ... [:S] Each RoomPack is one monolithic file, which doesn't allow for any "side entrances".

But as I wrote before: The good thing is that there's nothing wrong with using the faulty build for real work, with the exception of the Preview, which can be considered a convenience feature anyway.

Once I have installed the roompacks, can I delete the bin files? I won't need them unless I decide to install again. Am  II right on this?

Marko

Yes.

In the Teldex Larger Orchestra Preset,  are the intruments numbered from 29 to 34 meant for Dimension Brass?

Dear MIR users,

I'm very happy about the release of Teldex Studio Berlin for Vienna MIR. This most recent addition to our RoomPack 2 – Studios & Soundstages offers the ideal acoustic environment for all kinds of contemporary orchestral music production.

Taking the opportunity, I would like to share my personal "orchestral starting points" for this prestigious soundstage with you. One is a full-blown setup with 80 Vienna Instruments for large symphonic arrangements. The second one is meant to be used with smaller ensembles; it uses 32 Vienna Instruments, which make it a good choice for MIR SE users, too.

Both presets are based on examples of typical orchestral recording sessions supplied by the highly experienced, award-winning Teldex Studio staff themselves. All Icons are pre-positioned, levelled, labeled and assigned to Groups. Many of them make use of MIR's unique Character Presets.

None of the Vienna Instruments has any sample data loaded, though. This is done on purpose: Personally, I tend to look at these presets as an orchestra which has already taken seat, but no scores yet on the music stands in front of them. Depending on the task at hand I individually load selected Matrices into the Vienna Instruments I’m planning to use.

The beauty of this is that loading times are kept at a bare minimum. RAM usage is no issue either, as the number of loaded samples is totally scalable depending on the system's capabilites. Apart from that these presets can be used with a diverse set of VSL products, be it Special Edition, Download Libraries or DVD, Standard or Extended content.

In other words – every MIR user is empowered to generate his own personal orchestral starting points from these two basic setups.

Of course, these presets don't pretend to be an "instant mix". Like me, you will always find yourself changing some volume settings here, adding a plug-in there, or moving one instrument to the other side, just because it fits better to a certain arrangement. It's also worth mentioning that I decided to stick to the smaller Boesendorfer Imperial grand piano instead of the much more elaborated Vienna Imperial, mostly in order to avoid any "Missing Instrument" messages for those users who don't own the latter yet.

I hope you’ll enjoy making music in this wonderful virtual hall as much as I do.

Yours sincerly,

Herb Tucmandl – Founder and Managing Director, VSL

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Operating instructions: Download the files from here. Copy the two *.MIR-files to an appropriate location on your hard-disk and open it from MIR's file dialog like any other MIR Project. Don't forget to rename before saving in case you want to come back to the original Presets later.

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Kind regards,