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  • Panning question

    W
    W

    Sorry if this has been covered but in Vienna Ensemble (free) is adjusting the stereo size double sliders, and then sliding the single right or left pan below it just as good as moving the double size indicators overall from right to left?  I used to do that and not use the single slider below, but now want to control a size-adjusted instrument more precisely and so am combining it with the single slider right/left.  Also, is a near-mono setting with the size adjusters frowned upon? How small should these ideally be put together?  thanks.

  • civilization 3C
    civilization 3C

    the width controls do just that, you can focus the sound by narrowing the stereo field. The single control is working pan over the full field.
  • W
    W

    Yes,  but I am asking is it just as "proper" a way to pan by adjusting the width, and THEN sliding the single slider below the width adjusters. 

    I always used to adjust only the width and then make it point overall in one direction or another.  So I used it to both adjust width AND pan.  However I am now using both controls and wonder if that is not a good idea.  I am paranoid about panning problems.   (Also rather aliterative today.)
  • civilization 3C
    civilization 3C

    well, similar concerns here, so I don't use that single slider. I don't think it's so good an idea to use both, seems like it would complicate matters of pan law. I use the power panner in vienna suite.
  • W
    W

     Hmm, that's what I was worrying about.  Is this correct to do Dietz, or should only one of the pan controls be used?
  • W
    W

    So should these be used together or not?  Is it a sin in the mysterious, hermetic universe of panning?
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD

    It's important to understand the difference between the two controls:

    The Power Pan treats the two channels of a stereo signals as independant sources. It gives you the possibilty to place each channel in any chosen position of the panorama. Consequently, you will always reduce the stereo width of the original source, but the actual information of both channels is left intact. *)

    The Balance slider is just that: Move it to left, and you will hear less and less those parts of the signal that came from the right side. 100% left means that nothing from the right channel is audible any more. In most cases, this is not what you want to do, except on certain occasions where one side of a stereo signal is too dominant. - This is the way the dreaded "Balance" wheel in Logic's audio channels work, BTW.

    *) Sidenote: Actually, all out-of-phase information in a stereo channel will get cancelled out when mixing left and right, but that's just pure physics. ;-) 

    ... it might help to look at the graphics show in Vienna Suite's Power Pan to grab the idea. In fact, the panning and balancing options of VE follow the same basic idea.

    HTH,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • W
    W

    That is exactly what I was wondering about. Thanks a lot Dietz for that information!