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  • Any MIR users with Sonar? - Please help a fellow user [SOLVED]

    Hi all,

    a fellow MIR user seems to have problems to get MIR working together smoothly with Sonar on the same machine. MIR works flawlessly in standalone mode, but routing MIDI into it from Sonar via LoopBe30 seems to create crackles.

    As I have no access to Sonar (and due to the fact that my hands-on experience with this DAW is limited) - is there anything special one has to take care off? Please fill me in :-)

    TIA,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • It happens that I am a Sonar user, but I went with a different solution, one that may or may not be an option for the user you are referencing.

    My experience was as follows:

    In years gone by, I often had trouble with midi notes hanging when using VST libraries within Sonar on the same machine.  The problem would specifically occur when making changes to the tempo track within Sonar.  At the time I was using a combination of Garritan and EWQL, not VSL.  Before then, I had used ye olde Gigastudio, on a PIII slave, and not had that problem (but Gigastudio caused all kinds of other problems).  Upon purchasing the VSL SE libraries, it seemed that the best way to avoid that potential issue would be to use a separate slave machine for my samples since that had worked somewhat a few years earlier.

    Last fall, I purchased MIR SE and upgraded that slave.  My solution has remained to keep MIR on a separate machine from Sonar given the past problems, and so far, that solution has worked.  I have some very specific needs that tie me to Sonar (though the new Sonar X1 does not allow what I need to be able to do).  Particularly with using MIR, it should be possible to use a fairly modest computer for the Sonar machine, as one would likely be dealing with only two tracks, or perhaps a few more if needing to mix in MIR by section.

    Given previous experiences, I do not trust Sonar enough to use VSL (or any VST for that matter) with Sonar in any way other than stand alone on a separate machine.  Given personal limitations, I do not have the ability to do detailed research and trouble shooting particularly with a problem I was never able to previously solve, and did not care to chance having again.

    Perhaps getting a separate modest computer for Sonar may be a viable solution.


  • Thanks for your input, Noldar12! Highly appreciated.

    Any other comments, Ladies and Gentlemen? :-)


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • The problem seems to be solved. Sonar obviously doesn't send MIDI to the outside world when MIDI data is created on an "Instrument"-track. Solution: Create a dedicated MIDI-track and use this one instead.


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Dietz, I am curious if the person you have been helping has logged into the Sonar forum.  While it has been a bit "messy" of late, that forum can be very helpful in getting up and running and learning how to use the program.  The solution, as described, is basic to Sonar: separate midi and instrument tracks.  There are also several helps available for sale that could also be of use: Scott Garrigus' (sp?) book would be one very good resource (not sure if it is available in any language other than English though).


  • Thanks!

    As it seems the case is more about the basic concepts of MIDI in general. We are almost through, though. :-)


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library