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  • N
    N
    Ah...actually, let me clarify: The basses actually are partly following the pizz/arco designations in their own part, but only some of them. If I have passages contrasting the same figuration in pizz or arco, it sounds slightly different...It's really that unwanted divisi effect I was talking about earlier. But if the violins play pizzicato, and the basses also have pizzicato, then all of the basses go to pizzicato...whereas if it says pizzicato only in their own part, then I get that divisi-half-arco-half-pizzicato sound. Clearly some of the basses are following the expressions in their part, and some are following the ones in the violin part. But why is that?
  • J
    J

    From your description, it's kind of hard for me to diagnose what's happening without seeing your file. What I would suggest is to make short test files, just few measures that contains all of the various articulations that you plan to use. But make separate test files for the violins, another one for the violas and so on. This should help you isolate the problem. Once you have those files working, then appply the same principles to the score. The staff names are important to use. Finale's HP will not recognise a pizz articulation on a flute staff, becaue it knows flutes can't play pizz. Also double check your midi assignments. If the midi channel setup in the Vienna Ensemble doesn't match the FInale instrument list, that would also cause problems.
  • N
    N
    Thanks very much for your help. I've tried making all the names match everywhere...the staff, the instrument list name, even the GM selection in the instrument list.    Because I don't see any way to attach files on this forum, I've posted on the Finale forum, in case you'd like to see the file:

    http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=5&m=315577

    By the way, I also tried getting rid of all the other instruments so it was only DB. Then the DB works. So it works by itself; when the other instruments are added, it gets confused.

    Thanks again,
    -Jonathan
  • andiA
    VSL Team
    andiA

    Hello Jonathan!

    It's not necessary to open the HPP file, that you have downloaded. Just import the settings from this file on the HP menu in Finale. How to use it is explained in the readme file that comes with it. It should not be necessary to edit these settings for the Special Edition at all. Please make sure to only add instruments with the Finale instruments wizard. Otherwise it can happen that Finale doesn't know which instruments you have in your score (although you may have named them).

    I hope this was helpful.

    Best regards,
    Andi

    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • J
    J

    Jonathan,
  • N
    N
    Thanks much! It was my Vienna Ensemble setup as you had guessed, as I had been assuming that the numbers in the right corner were channel numbers, so I never actually selected the channel numbers in the correct place until I saw your graphic.
  • N
    N
    One other thing: You mentioned "Please make sure to only add instruments with the Finale instruments wizard." Finale's Setup Wizard allows one to add staves that are linked with Garritan-for-Finale, smartmusic, and tapspace libraries.

    Is there actually a way to make the Wizard's dropdown include Vienna Ensemble also? Everything is working with Vienna right now; it plays back, etc. ...but the Setup Wizard doesn't know about Vienna.

    Thanks,
    -Jonathan
  • N
    N
    PS...On the MakeMusic/Finale forum, they said some sort of text file is required to tell the Setup Wizard how to set up the VST library. I see the format of the files is fairly simple, but there's a lot of information in them. Does VSL supply such a thing?
    Thanks,
    Jonathan
  • andiA
    VSL Team
    andiA

    Hello Jonathan!

    I don't know which text file you are refering to. You don't need a text file for the setup wizard. All you need for the Special Edition and Finale, you can find in our Needful Things/Finale section.
    http://vsl.co.at/en/68/141/460/1603/1290.htm

    Best,
    Andi

    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • N
    N
    Hi Andi,
    In the Needful Things/Finale section, there's a zipped .mus file from which I can import HP settings, and there's an XML file for the percussion map. However, if you look at an installation of Finale 2010, you'll see there's a directory like C:\Program Files\Finale 2010\FinaleVST which includes, in addition to VST plugins, text files such as TapSpaceinstrument2k10.txt and GIF2010instrument.txt.

    These have data in a format that looks like this:
    [VSTINFO]
    Name          = Garritan Instruments for Finale 2010
    PluginID      = GA2k
    PlayerChannels      = 16
    LibraryID      =

    As I was told in the Finale forum, this is how the Setup Wizard automatically selects instruments for you. The Setup Wizard in Finale does all the work of selecting the channel numbers, making them match the instrument list, etc., so it makes it much easier to assign instruments.

    Unless you can tell me another reason why the Setup Wizard isn't seeing VSL even though everything else in Finale sees VSL, I would assume that this file needs to be included to integrate VSL with the Setup Wizard.
    Thanks :)
    -Jonathan
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