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  • Are there plans to update the current version of MIR with a 2nd edition? The sequence of builds recently released seem to be designed to fix specific bugs. I am using build 1719 which works flawlessly for my purposes. A specific list of changes since that build would be helpful. I have looked at the changelogs but they are not as helpful as I had hoped.

    Regards,

    Stephen W. Beatty 


  • Actually each version-step of MIR introduced major new features. The interim updates were mostly made for bugfixes, together with smaller feature additions.

    The latest Version is 1.2 build 1810 (... don't forget to update your eLicenser before installing). The most important new addition was VIPro compatibility.

    I was under the impression that the change-log indicates this quite clearly -> [URL]http://dl.vsl.co.at/downloader.aspx?ID=2855[/URL] ... what do you miss? Please tell us what we can improve.

    Thanks in advance,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Dietz, what about MIR on Macs? 


  • We work on it! :-)


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    @Guy Bacos said:

    Dietz, what about MIR on Macs? 

     

    DG


  • Thanks Dietz for the information. Your Changelog does indicate the addition of VI PRO. Maybe what I was intending to ask is, Why would you add a Mixer to an already intelligent object. My impression of MIR is that it is an intelligent object set that has the experience of master mixers (humans)  built into it. I was hoping VI would build in more intelligent objects to the system. 

    Just a thought, 

    Stephen W. Beatty

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Bachbeatty


  • Thanks DG and Dietz!


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    @Stephen W. Beatty said:

    Thanks Dietz for the information. Your Changelog does indicate the addition of VI PRO. Maybe what I was intending to ask is, Why would you add a Mixer to an already intelligent object. My impression of MIR is that it is an intelligent object set that has the experience of master mixers (humans)  built into it. I was hoping VI would build in more intelligent objects to the system.

    Just a thought,

    Stephen W. Beatty

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Bachbeatty

    ... uhhmmm ... sorry, I think you lost me on that. [:^)] ... Mixer? Intelligent Objects?


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • What I was referring to was a typical instrument icon in a specific venue in MIR. This is not simply a graphic object that you move around. Each object has embedded in it information about the space (venue), direction the instrument points, natural volume, character, is it part of a group, microphone characteristics, EQ, and final volume. Move this objects and all this information travels with it. This is what I mean by a intelligent object it "knows" what to sound like in a new position. It also knows what to sound like in a group. I was hoping VI would pursue this concept in an embedded mixer in MIR. For example, you add a instrument to a mixer its volume is set refering to natural volume, add a second instrument both volumes adjust referring to position of instrument and natural volume and so on for all the instruments used. Now if you change the volume of say the timpani  then there is a corresponding change in the other instruments reflecting there position and characteristics. This turns a dumb mixer into a "intelligent object". There are probably similar relationships for compression and EQ. Instead of Compressing the whole mix you compress one instrument and all the other instruments are compressed in a proportional and appropriate manner. Your programmers probably have most on the code needed to do this and probably only need to rethink the relationship and connections needed to make the attributes interact. 

    Hope this helps,

    Stephen W. Beatty

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Bachbeatty    


  • Some aspects of your thoughts are already implemented (e.g. instruments change their volume when you move them in relation to the main microphone), some are achievable on behalf of clever grouping inside MIR. But as a mixing engineer I think I'm allowed to tell you that there's no ultimate automatism for EQing and dynamic processing. The problem is not the code. Mixing is an art, not science. Even _our_ programmers can't code aesthetics. 8-)

    Kind regards,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Thanks Dietz,  it is good to know what the limits are.

    Stephen W. Beatty

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Bachbeatty