Polyphonic legato - help needed

[Talino]

Hi,

I'm new to VSL so please bear with me. I've been enjoying the legato patches without any issues until polyphonic legato arrived with VI Pro. I've watched the video on the subject (twice), and I still don't understand the logic behind its operation. Maybe it needs the special "interval" patches, which are not part of the Special Edition?

Anyway, here's what I tried (with the Flugelhorn Perf Legato Speed matrix): when in the portamento cell and holding a note, I indeed get a new note (without portamento) if I hold the sustain pedal. Fine. However, most of the time I compose with one instrument per track. I rarely (if ever) play polyphonic lines with simulated wind instruments (I have a piano...) Does this mean that every time I add a VI Pro with a Legato patch, I need to go into Advanced Mode and change Interval Mode to monophonic?

Is this issue instrument-related (there are no "interval" patches in SE or the flugelhorn)? Could this option be a preference instead (i.e. "default to mono legato")? Or is this something which was designed to be set up in a preset?

Thanks.

[Paul]

Hi Talino,

if you play monophonic lines anyway, there´s no need to turn off polyphonic legato (unless I´m missing something). There is no difference to monophonic legato, even if polyphonic legato is switched off, if you play a monophonic melody. If for any reason you´d like to switch off legato in your startup preset (described in the manual on page 11), simply include these settings in this preset [:)]

Best,

Paul

[julian]

@Paul said:

Hi Talino,

if you play monophonic lines anyway, there´s no need to turn off polyphonic legato (unless I´m missing something). There is no difference to monophonic legato, even if polyphonic legato is switched off, if you play a monophonic melody. If for any reason you´d like to switch off legato in your startup preset (described in the manual on page 11), simply include these settings in this preset

Best,

Paul

Hi Paul,

I have a question on this exact subject that I can't find answered in the manual. With monophonic lines in the original VI player I often found the best results were to allow an overlap of the notes (say up to a semi-quaver) for the smoothest legato phrase - with the actual transition, of course, starting at the in-comming note-on.

Now with the polyphonic option turned on the outgoing note is not going to stop? So for a semi-quaver there would effectively be a chord.

This means that the parts would need to be tidied up with the note overlaps removed. There are options to set the time break before a new note is played rather than a legato but whatever the setting here is not going to alter a chord sounding for the very short transition overlap.

So my understanding is if using the new polyphonic setting (especially as it can't be automated on/off - can it?) that legacy scores on monophonic legato lines need to be double checked for overlaps to avoid unintentional transitional chords.

Thanks

Julian

PS My reason for using a polyphonic setting on a legacy monophonic line is to add occasional divisi to the score.

[DG]

Julian, I think that one solution would be to set your polyphony to be monophonic at a Global level, and then change to polyphonic on a patch by patch basis as and when you need it.

DG

[julian]

Yes good idea, have another identical legato patch loaded and just switch to it for chords.

It would be good however to have an explanation behind the mechanism of the polyphonic switching. For example if a preceding note (say A) splits to a 2 note chord (C+E) I would guess the chord notes are 2 legato notes with the transition from the A, but if the A is held on fractionally does it play a release sample?

Also what happens at the end of divisi. If the C+E then change to a single F is the F note a transition from the E, from the C, or a starter (sustain) sample? 

Julian

[julian]

It would be good however to have an explanation behind the mechanism of the polyphonic switching. For example if a preceding note (say A) splits to a 2 note chord (C+E) I would guess the chord notes are 2 legato notes with the transition from the A, but if the A is held on fractionally does it play a release sample?

Also what happens at the end of divisi. If the C+E then change to a single F is the F note a transition from the E, from the C, or a starter (sustain) sample? 

any chance of some insight to this from the programming gurus?!

Thanks

Julian

[Paul]

Hi Julian,

words always tend to complicate things....

The best idea is to load a portamento patch (where the transitions are VERY easy to hear an follow) and find out how this works for you.

We have also showed a lot on the video "Polyphonic Legato".

Best,

Paul