So, yeah, it's clear after searching through Apple/East-West forums - not to mention my hellish ongoing experience with the Play engine - that East/West seems to have written the worst code of all time for a pretty popular streaming engine.
Kernel crashes in Logic, horrible artifacts, near moronic use of multi-threading. In trying to save my investment in the Play sound libraries, I was hoping that VE Pro would do the trick. To no avail. Not only this, Play instruments will crash Logic should VE Pro be found in the Logic song. Boo. To make matters worse, it appears that Windows users have no trouble with the Play/VE Pro merger. Double boo.
I've read tale that Vienna Admins have gone on record saying that there is nothing they can do from their side. That East/West needs to fix their programming. I've not been able to find that post/thread.
If an admin can go on record here and confirm or update the situation between VE Pro and Play, that would be fabulous - and even more fabulous if there is a work around for those of us running macs.
Thank you!!
G5 Quad, Leopard, Logic 9, Play 1.2.5
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VE Pro and East/West Play. Can't We All Just Get Along??
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Word is Play Beta Mac works well in VE Pro. It's not a public beta program though.
Still 32-bit until iLok sorts itself out.
You might want to think about replacing that G5 however,
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And VI and VE Pro are a lot lighter to run,too !!! but we still haven't got that "follow host tempo" runs and reps and trills.
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I'm not throwing any more perfectly good time & money after bad where Play is concerned. I've had nothing but trouble. The Play interface is moronic--when the whole thing doesn't crash. When I've had problems, I've emailed support and waited weeks for their reply: "did you try rebooting your machine?" Crashing problems were never resolved. The (old) EW Gold Symphonic Library that plays under Kontakt works OK. Near as I can tell they've done zero editing to the samples in the new Play version (not even to fix the intonation problems! Yikes!) After switching to VSL, I haven't bothered with EW Gold anymore, even under Kontakt. So Play was a few hundred $US down the drain. Oh well, I've certainly made worse and more expensive mistakes in my life! I'm moving on! "Life is short and art is long!" :-) william zeitler
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I assume you already know this, but the new PLAY updates are all intel only. As is Logic 9 - up through 9.0.2 it runs on G5, but the newer versions (including the 64 bit update) are also intel only. Vienna still supports G5 but only unofficially, and I wouldn't be surprised to see that go away at some point. Also, most of the new macs are quite a bit faster than even the quad G5s, helping performance in general.
The incompatibility between PLAY and VE Pro are well documented, I hope you just tried out the free VEP demo instead of buying it. Hopefully the issue will be sorted out soon, but it likely won't be compatible with G5 machines.
I'm not a fan of PLAY at all but I guess I was lucky on my G5, it ran fairly well and I never saw kernel panics.
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It sounds like it's working well for PC users, the issues seem to be mainly on the mac side. Part of that is probably related to only having a 32 bit plugin for mac (still waiting for iLok), some may just be that the programmers have more skill working on PC. There were some updates late summer (after most of this thread) that were big improvements over earlier versions. At this point for me it's usable (on mac) but still doesn't work nearly as well as other plugins like Kontakt so I avoid it when I have an alternative.
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I have a PC setup and for the most part VEP/PLAY work fine with the exception of a deafening 'white noise spike' or 'shot gun blast artifact' that PLAY occasionally makes sometimes out of the blue. I swear its going to cause me major hearing damage!!! - (and it happens when using PLAY without VEP too) so yea PLAY is coded horribly. Thank you Vienna for making quality coded products.