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  • Heya,

    Thanks aural for your description it make a lot of sence and confirm what i have can see on diferent live i checked on youtube.

    I have listen lot of diferent music and watch diferent live and here is a partial setup i thinking to use all are free to say what you thinking about it. For the moment i don't know yest where i will put the snare i thinking on right side but need think about it more.

                               Tubular Bell   Triangle/Cymbal  Bass drum

                                   Xylo/Vibraphone/Glockenspiel  Timpani                                    Trombones  Tuba

                                        Piano   French Horns Clarinets B.Clar    Bassoons C.Bassoon Trumpets

                                                  Harp       Piccolo     Flutes            Oboes  English Horn

                                                             2nd Violins                                    Violas

                                                     1st Violins                                                Cellos/Basses

    I think it should sound better than my 1st idea but look like right side got less instruments for now so i need check what i can put on right side for have an better balance btw both side.

    Thanks again to all who helped and glad to see it can help some others to ^.^


  • well, i like to position the percussion like that:

    chromatic percussion (all sorts of mallets) on the left side, then cymbals, gongs, triangle, snare, bass drum, timpani

    so it might look like that:

    mallets   gongs/cymbals   snare   bass drum  toms   timpani


  • Heya aural,

    Thanks again for share with all your infots on position. I am going to try a setup and come back with a test for you guys can say if it working or not. 

    Gilles


  • I saw a concert this week with the 2nd violins on the right. Drove me nuts. I like V1-V2-VA-VC-CB left to right. 


  • it depends on the era the piece was created in.

    mozart, for example, should be played with the german seating (VL2 on the right, VLC next to VL1)... the music was written for this seating and it wouldn´t make any sense to play it utilizing another seating... it looks weird, because nowadays you most of the time see the american seating... but unfortunately that seating is also used in pieces where it is not appropriate (i.e. stylistically or because of the era and therefore ignoring the composer´s intention).

    there is music that sounds better with the american seating and there is music that sounds better with the german seating. the music is the important thing, not the seating of the musicians... the former determins the latter.


  • Heya all,

    So i am back with my setup :X i panned most instruments i using and also made 5 diferents Depth. I still have some weird stuff i need to figure out like the timpani when not adding the convulation reverb is panned left/midle and when adding it, its more right/midle. Also the cymbal having a weird sound sometimes so i will check why. the setup is :

    TubularBell  Triangle/castanet  Cymbals/gongs  Timpani    BassDrum  Tambourin/Snare

                        Xylophone      Vibraphone     Glockenspiel                                            Trombones   Tuba

                             French Honrs     Clarinets    BassClarinet    Bassoons  Contra Bassoon  Trumpets

           Celesta/piano/Harp                     Piccolo       Flutes       Oboes     English Horn 

                                                 Violins2                                                          Violas

                           Violins                                                                                                     Cellos/basses

    Here an exemple using that setup. Its the imperial march i using it for can compare easier. Its far to be good but still working on diferents things. http://gilles.costard.free.fr/Musique/ImperialTestSetup.mp3

    I will try improve more this week ^.^


  • hi gilles.

    sounds good so far. the only thing i would change in the setup are the trumpets. to my taste they are a little too far on the right. i would seat them left of the trombones right behind the bassoons

    cheers

    s.


  • Heya aural,

    Thanks for have take the time to check ^.^ I guess its going to be a taste war because i don't like much when trumpets are to close to the midle :X but maybe i have to much pan them to right i still working on improving it so might be back later with new stuff :P

    Thanks again ^.^


  • OP, you might want to check out this site with actual photos of scoring sessions in Hollywood since you were mostly interested in scoring. It shows most of them in the "American" layout with Cellos on the right and violins on the left. 

    http://www.scoringsessions.com


  • Heya,

    Thanks for the link its really interesting! And for what i have see its most like i though so i will keep how i did for now and will see depending on the composition if need to move any instruments.

    Gilles


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