Hi Yanick,

On to your questions:

Actually, detache is triggered by the '-' /dash/ symbol, however it is triggered only if the conditions are "right" for a detache. That is if the sound is "main" sound - i.e. you're not using "sordino" or "ponticello" and if the time of the note is enough to allow for the detache sanple, yet not too long as to make the detache appear like a bad choice (e.g. a detache on a whole note in 4/4 at tempo 90 ).

You can try it - place a half note in the violins with tempo Q=90 and then place the dash on top of the note. This will trigger detache. If you are using a different technique (such as ponticello) or your note is too long, the dash will not trigger the detache (because you dont want to jump from ponticello to non-ponticello) but it will shorten the note just enough to give you a separtaion.

Now, about the Perf-Rep sample and the Detache combined with the sustenuto - you are very observant :) Those currently do not have associated articulations, they will be added on the next update (soon), since we'll also optimize some other things.  You can just wait for the next update, but if you really can't live without it, here's how you can manually change the articulation association:

Q:Ultimatly is there a way to Edit your articulation. Association keyswitch of my choice to an articulation. For expemple, making the Staccatisimo Symbol send a F0/D-1 keyswitch to trigger your the perf-rep Spiccato cells (or a real spiccato since I also own some DVD instruments).

A: Yes. It is a bit technical, but I think it can be done relatively easy. I'm not sure what system you are on, but here is what to do. Here's how to manually re-program the staccatissimo to triger the perf-spiccato.

1. For PC: In your NOTION SLE folder (where the program is installed) go to Support\PluginData\VSL\Rules.

2. Open up the VSL_Instruments.prules file with a text editor. Then find this text: <rule name="staccatissimo KS">. This is the playback rule for the staccatissimo articulation.

3. Under it look at the last 2 lines of the rule. Change those to be:

<key-switch type="note-on-prefix" midi-pitch="2" velocity="1" /> 
<key-switch type="note-on-prefix" midi-pitch="17" velocity="1" />

You're done. Now repeat this for the other 2 prules files so that it works in VE and VE PRO.

Just be careful when manually editing those. For one, you need to back up both the original and your changes, because if you want your changes kept when we update the software, you may want to have your rules saved. But also, if you are not careful and do not follow the proper format and say the syntax is wrong, your rules will stop working.

Again, unless you are comfortable with editing xml files, I would just wait for the update .

Thanks, Hope this helps.

Lubo Astinov

 Hi Dennis,

Thanks for the kind words. Yes, you can get the download articulations to work too. In your score, simply bring up the VI interface and replace the patches with the corresponding download instrument patches.Then make sure you save the score. This should work fine.

Lubo Astinov

 Hi Lubo,

Thank you very much for your answer.

The issue of the Notion SLE folder is now fixed.

Regarding the exporting possibilities to Nuendo, all the options you suggest are good. However, since VE, and also the Notion folder's presets are also available to be used in Nuendo, I wonder if is it possible to load also the presets or the corresponding file of VE. Sorry if this is an obvious question, but until now I've been working in Nuendo, using only VI instances, so I'm not used with VE possibilities.

Eventhogh, if you allow me, I'd like suggest, for further developments, a VST plugin that would allow the integration of Notion and Nuendo, maybe like Melodyne and other tools. I think there is any score editor application in the market that offers this possibility.

Also I'd like to say that my first impressions of Notion are very good and I think it will be a tool that will make easier the composing process.

Thaks again, Lubo

Best regards,

Paco Monge

 Hi Paco,

Thanks for your kind words. Yes, I think you should be able to simply save the VE preset from the NOTION score as a viframe and then open that in Nuendo. This should work fine. Let me know if you run into problems.

Lubo Astinov

Thanks Lubo,

I've been coupling my Vienna Library with many notation software over the years, (Finale, Sibelius and Overture), But Notion seems to be all i needed from the start. It's a perfect fit. I was looking foward to peek under the hood of the playback rules. I see now the limitless possibility of editing the "Prules" to my needs, and i've already included some of my big DVD collection articulations to the mix (don't worry I'm keeping a backup:) ).  I cant wait to see how you'll automate the Perf-repetition trigger in XML.

Long Live Notion,

Y-

Being an early adopter of Vienna Instruments, I'm strictly a DVD collection user - no Special Edition stuff at all. Will Notion SLE be worthwhile for me? Is it relatively easy to get the DVD collections to work? Could someone provide a quick walk-through of how I would do this?

thanks in advance.

James.

Hi James,

Although NOTION SLE is designed to work for Special Edition, there's nothing stopping you from bringing up the VI or VE interface(s) and simply substituting the corresponding SE patches with the DVD collections Instruments.If you do that on the presets, then you'll get them everytime already setup.

Hope that helps.

Lubo Astinov

Of course, that makes sense. I also saw the post on customizing the .prules files, which seems reasonable as well. All things considered - and particularly with that amazing price(!) - I can't see any good reason not to give it a try! 

thanks,

J.

If someone at Notion or VSL can do this for all the VSL DVD products I would buy Notion in a heart beat.

I think it would be well worth your, Notion's, time to map the VSL content. There are a lot of SE users and many of them have 

at least some of the other DVD collection(s).

I have all the collections and it would take weeks to map the content. Time I don't have.

DM33

Hi DM33,

Thanks for your post. Just a quick note to let you know that our plans are to continue expanding functionality with our VSL integration in the future.

Lubo Astinov

That is great news and good to hear!

DM33

 Hi Lubo,

I downloaded the  N3 demo, and like it very much, but it seems the demo works only on 32 bits , isn't it ? It work fine when I try the VSL Strings , but not as well when i replace the strings by Strings +, what can I do ?                                                                                                 

Also I will install it on a computer that isn't connected to internet , should I send you the serial number to get the key ? It is a very impressive notation software , do you will develop it , for film scoring , aka , being able to synchronize with a video source ???

Thank You

Hi Pro-Arte,

Q: I downloaded the  N3 demo, and like it very much, but it seems the demo works only on 32 bits , isn't it ?

A: Yes, NOTION3 is a 32bit application.

Q: It work fine when I try the VSL Strings , but not as well when i replace the strings by Strings +, what can I do ?

A: If you are using the Vienna Symphonic Library VST presets for the Strings,  they already include all of the articulations from both Standard, Extended and PLUS Standard and Extended libraries. In other words, you shouldn't need to substitute anything. I'm afraid I'm not quite sure I understand the problem correctly. When you launch NOTION and enter Score Setup, you should see the Vienna Symphonic Library group in the Instrument Entry Palette. From there you just enter your instrument (say Violins I) and it already includes the Plus articulations (try it by placing a trill on the violins, it will trigger the trill patch).Are you running into a different issue?

Q: Also I will install it on a computer that isn't connected to internet , should I send you the serial number to get the key ?

A: Just make sure you contact our tech support and they will guide you through the manual authorization process.

Q:It is a very impressive notation software , do you will develop it , for film scoring , aka , being able to synchronize with a video source ???

A: Thank you for your kind words. We will continue to expand functionality in NOTION for film scoring but I also wanted to point out that right now you can use ReWire to slave or host to a sequencer for any film scoring projects you are working on.

Again, thanks and I hope that helps!

Lubo Astinov

Thank You Lubo,

In fact when I enter Violins I , there is only the basic violins library , not the VIOLINS +...So I try to put the + library instead of the basic one , but it doesn't works...

Also , I am looking forward to have such wonderful notation software in its fully 64 bits functionnality, in 32 bits it restrain the use of my 12 GB of ram...

Thank You for taking the time to write.

Pro-Arte,

I still can't quite figure out what the problem is, since the preset should automatically load both PLUS and standard libraries. I think what would be best is if you were to create a score with Violins I as you see it and then save that score and e-mail it to me, so I can have a look.

I'm sure we can figure this out, I just need to see what you're seeing.

Thanks

Lubo Astinov

Hello, Lubo.

Wanted to send you and everyone a message to say how things are going for me with Notion SLE.

Very nicely!

I have had Finale since version 1, and have Sibelius 6.1.  But, Notion SLE is by far the easiest  notation program I've used to date that is allowing me to deal with using VSL, either VI or VE and VE Pro (32).

I have had a composition I did in graduate school about 30 years ago that I've tried many times to get a good performance using VSL in my other notation programs.  Now, with Notion SLE I can see that I'll be able to actually finish the realization via my computer.  Very straight forward!

Now, is it worth it to upgrade to Notion3?  There are other instruments I'd like to use in Notion, but I don't really need any of the sounds that come with Notion3.

Also, sometimes, when I load VE Pro (32) the music font is not displaying correctly.  This happens when I load the VE Pro first, then open Notion SLE.  Should I open Notion first, then VE Pro?  The note heads have a V and W instead of note heads, but the stems show up.  Also, no articulations show.

Thanks for a great and easy to use program!

Hi Dennis,

Thank you for your kind words. rest assured we will continue to improve the integration with VSL in all future updates.

As far as upgrading to NOTION3, if you plan on using multiple libraries and want to take advantage of the continously growing collection of VST presets, I'd say is certainly worth it. As an SLE user, or even just as a Sibelius and Finale user, you can upgrade for $99.

About that missing fonts bug, yeah we've noticed that too recently on some Snow Leopard machines here. What we found is a possible solution is to use FontNuke to clear out your font cache. Try that and let me know if it helps.

Thanks!

Lubo Astinov

 Hi Lubo I fixed It , everythings works fine now , my only regret is that isn't yet a 64 bits application, every tools I have are 64 bits applications, cause of the needs of more than 4 gigas to make the full orchestra working plus some synthetizers and of course convolution reverbs ... I really like Notion software, and be looking forward the next version.

Hello, Lubo.

I've been working with Notation SLE and the Demo of Notation3 for a few days now.  This is how I've wished the other notation programs (Finale and Sibelius) would have worked for years...no, DECADES!  But, they have never seen fit to really get things integrated so that I could easily make VSTi's work.  Now, Notion3 is getting me working with notation again!

There are, as you know, still some issues with Snow Leopard, but I have been able to work around them effectively so far.  I feel confident that your company will bring Notation up to date with SL soon.

I have purchase the upgrade to Notation 3, and it will arrive on the 19th.  That's about right for the Demo to run out, so I should be ok.

Have you thought about integrating the Euphonix Eucon into Notation?  I'm using their MC Transport now, and would like to see this and the MC Mix work with Notion.

Nevertheless, I'm pretty excited about Notion now, and will continue learning and working with this program and Vienna Instruments!

BTW, it's been many years now, but I met and visited with the creator of Music Printer Plus, and Notion, Jack Jarret when he was on a sabatical from teaching, in Bellevue, WA.  He was developing his software for a company there, and I was interested in what he was up to with his programming ventures.  I always will remember him having a some PCs open, and unplugging and plugging in Hard Drives while the computer was running...a healthy disrespect!  Something I won't try, but it worked for him.

Best,

Hi dayadon,

Thank you for yourkind words! Enjoy your NOTION software and like I've said we will continue to improve on our VSL support.

Jack has retired for some time now, but yes, what you're describing sounds like him :)

Thanks

Lubo Astinov