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    @dsstudio said:

    Hello,

    I get double note (phasing) with LOGIC 9 and VEPRO... any idea why?

    Also, last night session, I don't get a double note but when I play other EXS track, the sound from VEPRO will also play along... This beta is strange... I think I need to reverse to the old version!

    Thanks for any help!

    Sonny

     

    Sounds like a routing error. Make sure that the MIDI input in Vienna Ensemble is set to Plugin MIDI, rather than Omni, assuming that you're not intending to use any external MIDI inputs.

    DG
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    @dsstudio said:

    Hello,

    I get double note (phasing) with LOGIC 9 and VEPRO... any idea why?

    Also, last night session, I don't get a double note but when I play other EXS track, the sound from VEPRO will also play along... This beta is strange... I think I need to reverse to the old version!

    Thanks for any help!

    Sonny

    No MIDI handling was changed in this version. It sounds like a MIDI routing error indeed.
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    Before I take the plunge: (especially since I'm in the middle of a project!): does the new Beta fix the issues many of us have been having with audio dropouts and/or dropouts that occur when bouncing? (for example, when using Logic 9.02?)...Anyone notice a difference? :-) - robjohn99 MacPro (early 2009), 12 gigs RAM, Logic 9.02, Snow Leopard 10.6.2
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    Hi robjohn33, i am using the same hardware/software and get no problems at all.

    -A
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    Thanks for the update. However, I'm experiencing problems. Every time I try to open up Kontakt 2 within VE pro, it crashes. I can open up Kontakt 2 fine in Logic, and K2 use to work fine in older versions of VEpro (dont remember which version, but it was either the 2nd or 3rd build) but since updating to this build it no longer works. Was K2 support dropped? Whats interesting is if I open projects created with the older VE pro they open fine, but once I try to open the kontakt instance in VE pro (i.e. to add more instruments), it crashes VE pro. 

    I'm on a Dual 2.5 G5 w/ 7GB Ram OS 10.5.8. Logic 8.0.2

    Thanks! 
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    I am sorry but i am using Kontakt3.5 and 4.03 and no problems at all.

    No eperiencing about Kontakt 2 in VePro, but due of the K3-4 improvements the version 2 have not reason to exist actually.

    I suggest to you to update.

    And as you can imagine VePro has a different architecture, so what you open in Logic not necessary work in VePro.

    -A
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    @anton said:

    No experiencing about Kontakt 2 in VePro, but due of the K3-4 improvements the version 2 have not reason to exist actually.

    I suggest to you to update.

    This maybe true in some cases, but is not true in all. For example, Tonehammer recommends you use their libraries in KontaKt 2, and state that some of their patches do not work correctly in Kontakt 3 or 3.5! Even so, at the very least I should be able to open my old projects in VE pro, correct? Imagine trying to look at past work and it can no longer open!! I know this will happen eventually, but it should NOT happen from a maintenance update, especially when I haven't made any other changes to my OS, sequencer or DAW. 

    I know programming for all these variables is extremely difficult, but suggesting one should upgrade is not the answer, especially when in previous versions of VE pro K2 worked fine. You might say "stupid me" for updating when everything was working fine, but I HAD to update as the version of VE pro I was on had a MAJOR problem with the mac platform that caused the entire system to act slow!! (See thread here) http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=266341&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=90
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    @anton said:

    No experiencing about Kontakt 2 in VePro, but due of the K3-4 improvements the version 2 have not reason to exist actually.

    I suggest to you to update.

    This maybe true in some cases, but is not true in all. For example, Tonehammer recommends you use their libraries in KontaKt 2, and state that some of their patches do not work correctly in Kontakt 3 or 3.5! Even so, at the very least I should be able to open my old projects in VE pro, correct? Imagine trying to look at past work and it can no longer open!! I know this will happen eventually, but it should NOT happen from a maintenance update, especially when I haven't made any other changes to my OS, sequencer or DAW. 

    I know programming for all these variables is extremely difficult, but suggesting one should upgrade is not the answer, especially when in previous versions of VE pro K2 worked fine. You might say "stupid me" for updating when everything was working fine, but I HAD to update as the version of VE pro I was on had a MAJOR problem with the mac platform that caused the entire system to act slow!! (See thread here) http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=266341&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=90

    Could you supply us with a report of that Kontakt 2 crash? Thanks.
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    @eldad.guetta_10897 said:

    can it now load EW play AU in the Ensemble server?

    eldad

    It will not crash anymore when running EW Play AU and VE Pro Service Interface AU in the same host (Logic, DP, ...). For Play to work in an actual VE Pro instance, some work from EW's side is required.

    What is required of them, and are they doing it?  That is, do THEY agree that part of the problem is theirs, because from reading on their forum, absolutely all blame for this not working lies with VSL.  Not that I agree with that, of course, but I'm trying to determine if this is a hopeless case, since EW seems to think, since Play "works" in all other DAWS (albeit in the real world there are bugs) that they don't need to do anything to help the VE Pro issues.

    Can you please let us know if EW is in fact cooperating?  Or are you experiencing a brickwall from EW on this issue?

    Thanks
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    I have updated to this version VE PRO from the previous one but when I tried to add a solo cello to my vienna instruments orchestral cello the loading seemed to go into a loop and was well on the way to filling up 16gigs of ram when I pulled the plug on it. The solo cello was supposed to be 175megs. Is this a bug? Should I go back to the previous version? Is it something to do with the new feature save/load channel presets because this instance was made with the previous version of VE PRO?

    This happens on a Mac Pro with 16gig of ram.

    Thanks for any help!

    Ross
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    After updating to this new version I can't open the VEPro 32 bit Server. It has disappeared from the Application folder. The 64 bit server is the only one that will open. I've tried to re-install the update but it still doesn't work.

    I'm on a Mac Pro (Nehalem) 8 core.
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    I love the load/save presets/channelsets!!  2 odd behaviors with this version though.

    1) crashed when opening matrixes created with earlier versions of Vienna Instr.

    Problem solved by opening matrix in VI/VE and re-saving.  

    2) crashed when changing color.  

    Anybody else experiencing this?

    MacPro 2.26 4 core (older) 16gb 
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    I'm having problems with this version as well. Every 30 seconds or so I get a full audio and MIDI dropout for about 1 full second from every channel coming from VEPro. I tested with Kontakt 4, Kontakt 3, Omnisphere, and the Vienna player, and this is a problem with all of them. Never had this problem with the prior Public Beta. CPU is not an issue as I've tested with only 1 instrument loaded, and hardly a blip on the CPU meter in VE or Logic. System Specs: Mac Pro - 3.0ghz 8-core (Early 2008) 12GB ram Logic 9.0.2 OSX 10.6.2 FYI- everything that's inside of Logic plays fine. Thanks- Ryan
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    Still K4 causes VEPro (32 and 64 bit) to crash after reloading a saved project on Win7 64bit
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    @ddunn said:

    I love the load/save presets/channelsets!!  2 odd behaviors with this version though.

    1) crashed when opening matrixes created with earlier versions of Vienna Instr.

    Problem solved by opening matrix in VI/VE and re-saving.  

    2) crashed when changing color.  

    Anybody else experiencing this?

    MacPro 2.26 4 core (older) 16gb 

    Could you attach crash reports of this? They can help tremendously.
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    I'm using the Beta for a about a week now with my previous metaframe files; without any problems.

    Only today, I wanted to add a solo violin to one of the instances. That instance already contains the same solo violin. What happens is that VEpro wont stop loading, eventually using all the memory in the system; resulting in a system crash.

    Tried the same by loading only one of the projects and then adding the extra solo violin matrix; same results.

    Windows 7 ultimate 64bits, 16Gb memory

    Please let me know if any additional information is needed.

    AbraƧos,

    Wim Dijkgraaf
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    I'm having a lot more audio drop-outs when latency is set to "none" then what i had with the last "final" build
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    Did some more testing today ... . Both the 64bit version and the 32bit load an existing project well.

    But adding Vienna instruments to an existing project is impossible. The Vienna Instrument doesn't stop loading, ending up in a system crash. It also doesn't seem to know if a matrix is already loaded in another channel. It just starts loading everything again. Only the 32bit version seems to free-up it's memory again, after the instrument is loaded completely but then doesn't stop displaying "loading ...".

    The same "eternal loading" issue happens when starting a new project, both in the 64bit version aswell as with the 32bit version.

    I have to reinstall the previous version and find another solution to use my Synthogy Ivory (for the time being).

    Hope this helps a bit to finalize this version.

    AbraƧos,

    Wim Dijkgraaf
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    Don't know what to say ... . Is it possible that the VEpro 4780 version VI metafiles and the VE metafiles are not backwards compatible with version 4686?

    Everytime I open a file created with version 4780, with my 4686 version VEpro server, VEpro crashes.

    This would mean I just lost 1 week of mixing work (almost 40 hours ... ) ...

    Wim Dijkgraaf
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    it seems that 4780 and 4686 both crash when i load more then 4 kontaks 4, and cubase on the other computer wants to save. so what happends is that it all works just fine, till the autosave or regular save starts in cubase. then cubase just freezes and i need to do a reboot. xp on the main computer windows7 on the second one (64 bit) 8gb of memory on that second computer... i doubt it that i've used that all..